"AHA! AHA! OUR EYE HAS SEEN IT!"

by You Know 69 Replies latest jw friends

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  dubla

  yk-

  first off, im very surprised at the fact you even took the time to respond to my post. usually ive noticed you avoid trying to "get back" so to speak at people who "ridcule" you (your words, not mine); my only thought is maybe i got under you skin a little. anyhow, id like to respond to your post as well.....

  quote: Apostates, one and all, have chosen to follow the evil slave. Let's face it: you have no insights other than what have been handed you by the ringleaders of the apostasy, who were originally themselves anointed by holy spirit.

  -um, no. number one, i am not an apostate, i just do not believe the same as you do yk (and according to my understanding of the word apostate, you have in fact shown YOURSELF to be an apostate many times over in this forum). number two, i do infact have my OWN insights, and no one hands me anything, i read the bible on my own and make sense of it, on my own, with my own research, my own reasoning, my own understanding......"the ringleaders of apostasy" have nothing to do with it. in fact, i would suggest that my insights differ from yours only in that you believe your insights to be the result of a direct line to the heavens.

  quote: If you did have something of value you would post something other than childish ridicule. /You Know

  -this particular time id concede that my post may have been a little on the childish side. (let you in on a secret yk, it was an attempt at humor. shhh, dont tell anyone). for you to imply that i post nothing "other than childish ridicule" is incorrect, and either a blatant lie on your part or just a lack of knowledge concerning my previous posts. i have replplied to many threads on this forum, and if you took the time to read them (which i doubt you have or will), im sure youll find some very insightful words. admittedly its a little harder to do with your threads though, as you speak a very "holier than though" voice which most find very annoying if not just ridiculous. (not to mention the fact that trying to get you to open your mind, or consider an argument of worth, would be the equivalent of trying to talk david koresh out of the compound). i have given you some valid questions previously, but youve chosen to ignore them, so i admit it can be fun at times just merely making you sound like an idiot (which you do very well yourself, dont get me wrong). so again, for you to imply the only thing i have posted, or will post, is "childish ridicule", is absolutely preposterous, but it was on your part a valid attempt id say, at discounting my posts. (its also just your little way of adding a slam without actually adding a slam. subtle, but not invisible).

  yk, let me ask you something. why do you do this? why do you spend such an obvious LARGE portion of your time on this forum, arguing (not preaching) to "apostates"? wouldnt your time be better spent going door to door, trying to reach those that you might actually have a chance to get to listen to you? either youre very ignorant (thinking youll convert "apostates"), or youre really not as faithful a servant of jehovah as you claim to be. maybe youre counting this time as service time as many on here have suggested you do, i dont know (which again would be ridiculous, becuase youre merely arguing with those you know you will never "reach"). you might want to give this some thought.

  aa
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  D wiltshire

  YK,

  (elder surfing the internet with body permision)

  Brothers I like to bring this as evidence of some of the not so upbuilding things that You Know is saying about the Society concerning a thread about pedophiles on the J-W.com forum as you see it's very incriminating I left out some of his post so we can home in on the real, shall we say important evidence. I've taken the liberty of omitting certain phrases just like the Society does in their publications so I think what I did is very theocratic.

  There's no question about it that the Watchtower has gotten themselves in a real mess with this thing... Now, though, it appears that there is going to be maximum reproach brought upon Jehovah as well as everyone upon whom his name is called. That is going to hurt a lot of innocent people and yet it will not remove the sexual predators from our midst. It may result in some sort of policy change, but big deal!...
  It may be that it is now time for Jehovah to call... to judgment. It would certainly appear that way from the ferment and apathy among ...people. Jesus said that nothing concealed will not be brought to light. If the Society is guilty as charged with the way they have handled this pedophile issue, then by all means, we welcome Jehovah’s punishment...for stumbling others and bringing reproach upon his name. So, yes, Jehovah is going to put us through an ordeal ...until everything is set right by his own direct intervention... for the Watchtower to be silenced, as the Scriptures say they will be,... Who said October is not going to be interesting?

  / You Know

  
  I could get more evidence if you like he has written quite a bit.

  I'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean I beleive it.
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  Tatiana

  Someone said on another board that they were very frightened at the things that were happening to the org. concerning child abuse, etc. They asked if this was what the prophecy meant about Jehovahs' people being persecuted and that maybe they should return to the fold.

  I don't think the prophecy meant being persecuted for WRONGDOING! According to the wts, they would be persecuted for being His chosen people. But I knew they would somehow twist this around to make it seem like this is prophecy being fulfilled. They have to scare the living daylights out of their members in order to keep them!

  It's all bullshit!

  April
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  Yadira Angelini

  You Know: your name saids it all.. you think you know it all... can you see you are blind on both eyes? not one? My guess is eventually, you will end up getting out. I give you a year if not less, depends of your stubborness and also if you continue to read what it's said here. It's a blessing you are involved on this foroum, thank God you are... you have a chance. I trust you will leave the org. and so my daughter... you give me hope... someday, you may like to invite her to join this foroum, who knows? love and prayers for you. I'm your friend.

  Yadira Angelini
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  hillary_step

  Actually,

  I find YK's posts very interesting. Biblical interpretation, one must remember is exactly that, interpretation, and obviously by definition open to speculation.

  Where YK (Hi, Robert) is particulary interesting as an individual, is that he sees his annointing by Christ as giving him a superior ability to interpret Holy writ. In reality he is just as entitled to believe this as some are to believe the opposite. One thing is certain, he most definately inspires many a keyboard to rattle and moan from frenetic overuse.

  The most important thing to remember about YK which will help understand his viewpoint ( that is, if you want to ) is that -

  His 'eye' has seen the 'gory' of the coming of the Lord...
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  dubla

  hillary-

  quote: I find YK's posts very interesting. Biblical interpretation, one must remember is exactly that, interpretation, and obviously by definition open to speculation.

  -i appreciate your opinion of yk, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. i can say with some conviction though, that yk does not believe that "biblical interpretation" is "open to speculation" as you suggest. on the contrary, he believes everyone should follow his inspired translation or "speculation", which is the very opposite of open....its closed tighter than a drum. also, when i said that "most" (not all) find his writings annoying and/or ridiculous, this was a conclusion i had made reading over some of his various threads on this forum, and reading the various responses/replies to his starting posts. if you look back over them yourself, youll find the majority either rolling their eyes, trying to get him to see that hes actually apostate, or simply ignoring his "shout from the street corner" approach to preaching (see post on this thread by logical, yawn).....so, majority=most (not all). but again, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

  quote: YK (Hi, Robert) is particulary interesting as an individual

  -i agree. i also think miss cleo (psychic) seems like an interesting individual, but i think most if not all of what she has to say is absolutely ridiculous (some do believe it and follow it though).

  aa
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  hillary_step

  Hi jdubla,

  Thank you for your post in which you note :

  i can say with some conviction though, that yk does not believe that "biblical interpretation" is "open to speculation" as you suggest

  If you re-read my post you will note that I do not in any way 'suggest' what you suggest that I do suggest! My comment explains the ethic of Biblical interpretation, what YK thinks of that ethic is quite another question, partially answered by the rest of my post.

  Kind regards - HS
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  TR

  jdubla,

  will jehovahs witnesses start protecting known murderers and rapists next?

  They already do that.

  TR

  The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
  —Edmund Burke
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  dubla

  hillary-

  quote: If you re-read my post you will note that I do not in any way 'suggest' what you suggest that I do suggest!

  -i have confused you, and re-reading my post i see where the error occurred in your mind; i should have phrased it differently. let me re-phrase.....

  i can say with some conviction though, that yk does not believe that "biblical interpretation" is "open to speculation". (end of sentence)........
  the "as you suggest" was added just to say that you suggest "biblical interpretation is open to speculation", NOT that you suggest yk believes "biblical interpretation" to be "open to speculation" (as i do not think any intelligent reader of yks readings would suggest, and you sound like an intelligent reader/writer.)......
  by rights, i should have just omitted the "as you suggest". this ending to the sentence was just pointless and confusing, as they were in fact two seperate ideas that didnt need to be linked in one sentence.......the two ideas namely being......

  1)hillary suggests that biblical interpretation is open to speculation.
  2)yk does not believe hillarys suggestion that biblical interpretation is open to speculation.

  hope this helps.....

  aa
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  Englishman

  Joel Bear,

  I said that YK was a 25 year man, 25 years in the dubs!

  Englishman.

  ..... fanaticism masquerading beneath a cloak of reasoned logic.