Layed Off!

by Defender 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • Defender
    Defender

    No matter how you think you are ready for such an eventuality, it still remains stressful when it finally does happen.

    Until last Friday, I worked as a Systems Engineer for a large Canadian telecom equipment manufacturer that has been laying off thousands of employees. Their target was 30,000 and they are almost there. I don’t know, but maybe my number was 25,879…or something.

    Anyone out there works or used to work for this company? Those who do, would know which company I am talking about.

    Had this happened a year ago, it would not be that problematic, the economy was doing ok and one found jobs easily. Now, there are thousands upon thousands of hi tech prospectors out there and companies are becoming choosier. Maybe this is so in Canada, I am not sure how the situation is in the US.

    When I look at available positions, I check mark the requirements against my skills and almost always I keep finding a requirement or two that I do not match.

    Oh well, maybe its time to go back to school or start my own business or better yet… start a new religion.

  • Eyebrow
    Eyebrow

    Hmmm a new religion. It worked for Ron L. Hubbard, haahaa!

    Seriously, if you have not already done so you may want to consider working as a contractor for a contract employment company. I was, until recently, a contract employee recruiter, and things got tight in the US as well as Canada, especially telecom.

    Good luck! Let us know how it goes.

  • COMF
    COMF

    Things are pretty tense here in Dallas, too. Everybody in my department is heaving sighs of relief that they didn't go with a dot-com a year or two back.

    COMF

  • jelly
    jelly

    Let me guess,

    Northern Telecom, or are they now called nortel networks. The amazing thing is that they are predicting a return to profitability in one year. I wonder if they realize that it takes employees to earn money.

    Jelly

  • Defender
    Defender

    Jelly,

    This is something the boys put together, you may find this interesting...

    NORTEL TO CUT WORKFORCE 120 PERCENT

    NEW YORK, N.Y. - Nortel will reduce its workforce by an unprecedented 120 percent by the end of 2001, believed to be the first time a major corporation has laid off more employees than it actually has.

    Nortel stock soared more than 12 points on the news.
    The reduction decision, announced Wednesday, came after a year-long internal review of cost-cutting procedures, said Nortel Chairman and CEO John Roth. The initial report concluded the company would save $1.2 billion by eliminating 20 percent of its 80,000 employees.

    From there, said Roth, "it didn't take a genius to figure out that if we cut 40 percent of our workforce, we'd save $2.4 billion, and if we cut 100 percent of our workforce, we'd save $6 billion. But then we thought, why stop there? Let's cut another 20 percent and save $7 billion.

    "We believe in increasing shareholder value, and we believe that by decreasing expenditures, we enhance our competitive cost position and our bottom line," he added.

    Nortel plans to achieve the 100 percent internal reduction through layoffs, attrition and early retirement packages. To achieve the 20 percent in external reductions, the company plans to involuntarily downsize 22,000 non-Nortel employees who presently work for other companies.

    "We pretty much picked them out of a hat," said Roth.
    Among firms Nortel has picked as "External Reduction Targets," or ERTs, are AT&T, AMR Corporation, parent of American Airlines, WorldCom, and Charles Schwab & Co. Nortel's plan presents a "win-win" for the company and ERTs, said Roth, as any savings by ERTs would be passed on to Nortel, while the ERTs themselves would benefit by the increase in stock price that usually accompanies personnel cutback announcements.

    "We're also hoping that since, over the years, we've been really helpful to a lot of companies, they'll do this for us kind of as a favor," said Roth.

    Legally, pink slips sent out by Nortel would have no standing at ERTs unless those companies agreed. While executives at ERTs declined to comment, employees at those companies said they were not inclined to cooperate.

    "This is ridiculous. I don't work for Nortel. They can't fire me," said Kaili Blackburn, a flight attendant with American Airlines.

    Reactions like that, replied Roth, "are not very sporting."
    Inspiration for Nortel's plan came from previous cutback initiatives, said company officials. In November of 2000, for instance, the company announced it would trim 10,000 jobs over the next year. However, just a few months later, Nortel said it had already reached its quota. "We were quite surprised at the number of employees willing to leave Nortel in such a hurry, and we decided to build on that," Roth said.

    Analysts credited Roth's short-term vision, noting that the announcement had the desired effect of immediately increasing Nortel share value. However, the long-term ramifications could be detrimental, said Bear Stearns analyst Beldon McInty.

    "It's a little early to tell, but by eliminating all its employees, Nortel may jeopardize its market position and could, at least theoretically, cease to exist," said McInty.

    John Roth, however, urged patience: "To my knowledge, this hasn't been done before, so let's just wait and see what happens."

  • MrMoe
    MrMoe

    It's hte high-tech industry in general. I work with a Services Association for professionals in the high-tech industry and there are huge budget cut-backs accross the board with companies like Oracle and so on. 99% of the companies we deal with are having huge or at least noticable setbacks, but keep your chin up, many of the companies are now lifting freezes off of thier budgets. Go to www.afsmi.org and look at the job postings. If you need help, give me a call at work and I will see what I can do 1-888-922-3764 ext 20.

  • ChuckD
    ChuckD

    I am in the same situation. I am a consultant, and had been working for one client steadily since 1992. In the Spring, their new management made a few changes, including a decision to not renew any consulting agreements. Fortunately, I found another project fairly quickly, but that one was short-term. Since mid-July, I have been out of work and waiting for my phone to ring with something new.

  • Pathofthorns
    Pathofthorns

    If you worked for NT, you might be very close by.

    Path

  • ChuckD
    ChuckD

    I invested a fairly large chuck of my retirement money in NT, and watched it climb, split, climb, split again, climb .... and then, (whisteling sound). Splat.

  • nytelecom1
    nytelecom1

    well, well, well..lets all get together and talk.
    My company is one of the few who is actually making a profit
    in this industry. Now we are in a hiring freeze. This also happened
    about 2 months before my last job closed their NY market.
    I am not saying the writing is on the wall now, but I am milking
    all the company training now for all its worth. Now if a systems
    engineer for Nortel Cant get a job..I am dead.........oh by the
    way....the Meridians SUCK!!! although I am fond of your Nortel
    Passports

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