Sex Education for FIVE year olds?

by Latte 10 Replies latest social family

  • Latte
    Latte

    I read the following article, and found too many points where I felt utterly amazed that anyone can think our children should be exposed to such ‘tuition’. How far have we gone as a people to feel that young children need to be taught such adult stuff?

    Really, I found many of the points in the article quite worrying….too many to mention.

    Please take the time to read all of it……

    (The Daily Mail is highly respected British Newpaper by the way )

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/columnists/columnists.html?in_article_id=370621&in_page_id=1772&in_author_id=256

    Our sex education policy is a disaster. So what does this Government do? Extend it to 5-year-olds

    09:48am 5th December 2005

    When this Government falls into a hole, it knows exactly what to do. It digs even faster and deeper, burying more and more victims in the process.

    All the evidence suggests that its sex education policy is a disaster. Britain has the highest rate of under-age teenage pregnancies in Europe.

    The proportion of 13 to 15-year-olds who are getting pregnant is rising. The rate of sexually transmitted diseases among young people is going through the roof.

    Even the apparent drop in under-18 pregnancy rates is no more than a statistical sleight of hand, since the number of 16-yearolds using the morning-after pill has doubled since it was made available over the counter in January 2001.

    Faced with the egregious failure of the strategy, government advisers have now proposed a brilliant remedy. Apply it even more widely!

    Their solution is to make sex lessons compulsory for all children from the age of five, so that detailed knowledge about sex should become a routine part of their education.

    No sooner will a child have found his or her coat-peg and be measuring up the competition for the climbing frame than some teacher will be rattling off where babies come from.

    Irresponsible

    So while many children are not taught to read properly at five - indeed, a disgraceful number can barely read and write when they leave primary school at the age of 11 - they will be given "more rounded" lessons on sex and relationships. Is this not grotesquely inappropriate?

    The assumption behind compulsory sex education is that not enough of such information is reaching children to promote responsible behaviour. On the contrary, children can hardly move for this stuff, and it is the message that it carries which is irresponsible.

    During the past decade, school sex education programmes promoting a 'safe sex' message have hugely expanded. Government-funded services advise on how to have sex, where to get the morning after pill and how to spot sexually transmitted diseases. Girls as young as 13 are even being offered sex advice by text message; they tap in questions on their mobile phones and receive answers from sexual health workers.

    Yet all this has not brought down the rate of sexual activity; far from it. The more such value-free sex education and contraceptive advice is given to children, the more their sexual activity increases. And the earlier in their lives this encouragement is provided, the earlier their sexual activity takes place.

    This is because adult values are being loaded onto children who are too emotionally immature to cope with them. Teaching children that premature sex is permitted, appropriate and fun encourages them to try it out. That is hardly rocket science.

    To believe that teaching them to link sex to "relationships" will make them behave responsibly is simply risible. A "relationship" is a concept that is so slippery as to be meaningless. It belongs to the world of TV soaps, which is about the level of reality that defines so many teenage - and a dismaying number of adult - sexual encounters to which the notion of permanent commitment is entirely foreign.

    The increase in sexual promiscuity among children and teenagers is not due to ignorance, but to the deliberate destruction of the notion of respectability. Not only are official blind eyes turned to enforcing the legal age of consent, but sex education actually targets under-age children.

    Moral guidance is nowhere. Instead, sex education seeks to 'clarify' the child's own values. But children need clear boundaries of behaviour. Treating them as though they have adult values is to abandon and even abuse them.

    According to these government advisers, sex education for five-year-olds would be confined mainly to "relationships and friendships". But who can trust even this anodyne formulation, given the wildly inappropriate sex "education" materials used in some schools?

    One such video shown to nine and ten year-olds enlightens them about different positions for heterosexual, bisexual, gay and lesbian sex.

    Exploitative

    Other programmes require children to act out sexual behaviour. Such material looks like propaganda for sexual licence; some is so exploitative, it verges on the predatory. Is it surprising that more and more children are acting out sexual behaviour, a common response to sexual abuse? The worst of it is that such materials are not shown to parents who, on the rare occasions when they do stumble across it, are invariably aghast and furious at this abuse of both their children and of their own role.

    But then, the state is increasingly undermining parents and usurping their responsibility to guide their own children in the most private and personal areas of life.

    Schools dish out contraceptives and pregnancy tests to 11-year-olds, and provide abortion services to under-age children without telling their parents. When Susan Axon challenged this abortion practice in court, the Family Planning Association said in evidence that the idea that "parents know what is best" for their children was out of date and the views of health professionals should take precedence.

    According to the Government, parents increasingly cannot be trusted to impart to their children qualities such as self-worth, restraint, friendliness, empathy and resilience, so schools must now teach "emotional literacy".

    Accordingly, 14 separate emotional areas are to be taught, under titles such as "getting on and falling out", "relationships" and "good to be me".

    This is nothing less than a State grab for control over the way children think about the world - a creeping nationalisation of childhood that is steadily destroying the independence of family life.

    What's more, guidance on behaviour cannot be taught. It is learned by example, by being brought up in a loving, stable environment where identity and moral values are forged. Children brought up by their two parents are far less likely to have sex under 16 than those who are not.

    Fragmented

    More and more families are becoming unstable and fragmented. Yet instead of shoring up the married family - the best antidote to irregular behaviour - the Government is ruthlessly undermining it by promoting the idea that all lifestyles are equal.

    The Qualifications and Curriculum Authority says primary schools need to cover a wider range of relationships than the traditional nuclear family and must teach children that families include samesex couples, single parents and children in local authority care.

    Ministers have progressively loaded the dice against marriage, making it ever more meaningless. Now they are undermining it still further with gay civil union, which comes into force today.

    Contrary to the claims being made for this measure, it is not about equal rights or greater self-discipline. It is part of a wider onslaught on the whole notion of moral norms by separating sex, marriage and procreation, and destroying the unique place of marriage in our society as the institution that best safeguards the healthy regeneration of human identity.

    Both adults and children are being funnelled instead towards a sexual free-forall. This is surely why the Government is so opposed to sexual abstinence education. All the evidence is that abstinence works in preventing irregular sexual activity.

    But the Government doesn't want to prevent such activity. On the contrary, it wants to promote it in order to produce "equality" between lifestyles - while tidying away any inconvenient consequences such as teenage pregnancy.

    Sex education is therefore not a means of protecting this country's fundamental values. It is a weapon in the war being waged against them.

  • IMustBreakAway
    IMustBreakAway

    Hmm.. I'm not sure that is the correct way to go about it. However i do believe that education is the key. You can't stop people, including teens from having sex. But i also think that the above system shows some hints of irrationality.

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    5 year olds? The only person my 5 year old son wants to kiss is me. I just asked him about kissing and he got a confused look on his face - he's not ready for anything else!

    Josie

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    Latte,

    Not to choose sides in the issue, I do have a couple of points to make about information the article omitted. While the Daily Mail may be a very respected paper this particular article was written with a heavily biased hand. I do not doubt that the facts presented are accurate, however it does seem that there was bias involved in which facts were presented.

    The initial premise of the article is as follows: If teen pregnancy is on the rise then the sex education program must be faulty or, at best, ineffectual.

    Here are some pertinent facts that were left out of the article:

    1. Television programming introduces children to sexually arousing body language, stimulating choices in fashion, and an avid interest in sexual experimentation at ever younger ages.
    2. The Internet is broadly available and rarely supervised properly by parents; porn is is easily accessible and fascinating to children, who wish to be more "grown up" and see sex as a way to prove their maturity.
    3. Huge increase in dual-income families and single-parent dual-income families, which inhibits a parent's ability to properly supervise and/or educte their children.
    4. Huge increase in available cash flow for minors, today's Western youth (on average) has more usable reserves of money than during any comparable period in history; with money comes ability to buy fashions and hide reality from parents.

    In short, I am not saying sex education at younger ages doesn't contribute to the problem. I am saying that I believe the article unfairly represents the issue of teen pregnancy and its causes.

    One paragraph in particular stood out as egregious, in my opinion.

    This is because adult values are being loaded onto children who are too emotionally immature to cope with them. Teaching children that premature sex is permitted, appropriate and fun encourages them to try it out. That is hardly rocket science.

    This seemed to be written like a Watchtower paragraph. It starts with "This is because..." but offers no proof or data to validate the claim made, gives no resources by which the claims can be verified, and basically implies that the current sex ed program teaches "that premature sex is permitted, appropriate and fun" and that because the program teaches this it "encourages them to try it out." However, the writer does not bother to establish the claim of what the current sex ed program teaches, but uses this unabashedly assumed truth as the entire basis for the arguments presented in the article.

    In my opinion, something is wrong with that, however well respected the publication the article appeared in may be.

    Respectfully,
    AuldSoul

  • unclebruce
    unclebruce

    Growing up a JW in the '60's & 70's meant being constantly reminded about the evils of 'masterbation, oral sex, beastiality etc.. whether there were infants in the audience or not. At the Sydney Superbowl in 2000 Bethelite Allan Wood gave a talk pointing out the evils of oral sex (you coulda heard a pin drop ... the irony of his name is kinda funny too

  • Latte
    Latte

    AuldSoul,

    Checkout some of the titles of these articles!
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/dmsearch/overture.html?in_page_id=711&in_overture_ua=cat&in_start_number=0&in_query=sex+education&siteOr=

    I don’t think it’s remotely like the W/T.


    The sex education programme over here is getting lots of publicity at the moment. The main problem is that parents do not seem to be aware of what they are....,.until the papers such as the Daily Mail highlight just what their kids are being fed.

    It’s all too soon for my liking, kids should be having carefree fun, not faced with such matters.

    Latte


  • joelbear
    joelbear

    other than the names of things, i'm not sure how much a 5 year old could comprehend

  • unclebruce
    unclebruce
    other than the names of things, i'm not sure how much a 5 year old could comprehend


    Good point JB but I wonder what teachers think when JW kids talk about oral sex and rear-ending donkey's in the playground.
    I can remmember meetings and assemblies with some pretty graphic descriptions of how not to perform oral sex that left little for the imagination.

    Back on track though - I explained sex to my youngest girl when she was about 8. She laughed, shook her head, turned to her mother and saying "naaaaah" her mum nodded "yes it's true!" (and I never needed broach the subject again .. easy peezy PS: Would you mind putting some clothes on? .. at least a bra or a handkerchief or something.. there might be kiddies watching

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    Latte,

    I read the articles in the link that do not require subscription. Most were written by Steve Doughty.

    What I did not find (in the non-subscriber articles) was any direct support for the claimed contents of the sex ed curriculum. The article by Liz Hull was interesting, but was related to information being taught to 16-year-olds. I don't believe there are very many 16-year-olds who do not already know what oral sex is. I knew when I was in the second-grade (age 7).

    By the fifth grade, I knew which girls would do what even though I never experimented with anything sexual until I started dating a girl when I was 21. Well, except for that which is common to all young men. I was still a virgin when I got married at 25—by choice.

    I personally believe sex-education is best from parents, but the reality we have to face is that parents often DO NOT TEACH their children adequately about sex. I would prefer for young people to learn about sex from teachers than the way I learned—from porn at a friend's house. My parents were both very frank and open about discussions of sex and my choices in life are largely because of their honesty on that topic.

    There is no basis, in the articles I considered, from which I could reasonably weigh the age-appropriateness of information being provided to 5-year-olds. If you have some information that shows the content of the curriculum for 5-year-olds I would be happy to review it. If it discusses gender differences and various family unit structures they are likely to interact with I can't really see why that would be a bad thing.

    Respectfully,
    AuldSoul

  • Latte
    Latte

    AuldSoul

    What I did not find (in the non-subscriber articles) was any direct support for the claimed contents of the sex ed curriculum

    I don’t think that the curriculum has been set yet, I will try and find out though.

    I was still a virgin when I got married at 25—by choice.

    Wow we’re on the same page there….! Lol

    It didn’t do me any harm not knowing about sex…sex…sex. And no my parents were not at all forthcoming with any info or details. I was born into the JW’s so yes, I sat through the many meeting’s where oral sex and other stuff were mentioned. I do believe that, really, this would be considered ‘fleeting’ compared to structured sex education lessons aimed specifically at young ones.

    Moral guidance is nowhere. Instead, sex education seeks to 'clarify' the child's own values. But children need clear boundaries of behaviour. Treating them as though they have adult values is to abandon and even abuse them.

    Can we really take chances with our little ones? I’d really rather they didn’t know….I rather they don’t see the irresponsible viewing that is so readily available, but, yes as you pointed out it’s all around us. (sigh)

    Latte

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