Talked to an elder about the BIG NEWS

by Jez 23 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Jez

  I had the opportunity to have a discussion with an elder the other day. We were both in a public place and we started to talk. He was depressed because one of his teens is now df'ed. I told him to tell him hi for me and that I would be happy to talk to him anytime. I smiled and said, "It's not the end of the world." He smiled back and said, "not yet" I said, "XXXX, I don't like like that anymore, I live each day for what it offers me, whatever happens in the future is out of my hands, I never think of 'end of the world' anymore and I can't imagine what it is like to think of that everyday."

  He smiled again and said nothing. I told him that I had read a disturbing article about the blood issue, and are JWs allowed to take blood now?

  "No, I have heard nothing." ???

  "I read an article about how JWs can take blood fractions, (etc, I explained what it said)"

  "Well, as technology improves, they are able to extract blood parts that we can use."

  "So, can we take an organ transplant?"

  "That is a matter of conscience"

  "But an organ transplant allows in more foreign wbc than a blood transfusion does!"

  "I know."

  "Hmmmm, it must be confusing for everyone."

  "it is"

  "Well, heres to hoping we never have to deal with the blood issue"

  "I agree"

  Seems to be some serious confusion and let down within. He was sad and had a 'plow ahead no matter what' attitude. I had a very good discussion with him though and really felt sorry for him.

  Jez
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  daystar

  So depressing... But, way to plant a seed!
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  NYCkid

  Jez, you're so good at incidental witnessing.

  Regards,

  NYCkid
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  Dismembered

  Greetings Jez

  They still don't cease to amaze me

  Dismembered
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  joelbear

  jez, i think you came across to him as very loving and he will remember what you said
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  jgnat

  Just the right balance, plant the seed without ramming it down his throat. I like the "say hi to him for me." In a way, you are giving the elder permission to be natural with his own son.
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  Big Dog

  You can tell, they want to go there, but they just can't, too much invested in being JW's. My sister is like that, she just can't go there, though I can tell part of her wants too. So many caught in that conundrum.
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  luna2

  Good stuff, jez. The past couple of times I've talked to JWs I've been a little too aggressive, I think. I'll try to keep your example in mind the next time I run into them.
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  johnny cip

  it's always best to be nice to you jw friends when your planting seeds. and work them easy. of course this works best... but when talking to a jw if they start acting like a wt ZOMBIE. then you also have to be able to rip them apart. no quarter style. remember treat other as they treat you. john
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  drew sagan

  Keep up the good work. I've actually been waiting for the oppurtunity to bring up some point to an elder for some time, but i guess they just don't feel like talking to me. :)