Update on the JW aunt melodrama

by osmosis 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • osmosis
    osmosis

    Not sure if she has actually sent that letter to the WTS yet, but so far there has not been a response. I wonder if they will respond at all, after all it's easy to say it got lost in the mail or something, much harder to make such excuses over the phone. Time will tell. I will have to "wait on that answer" haha

    I got sick of hearing them say "well you've never read the bible so you don't know" so I finally relented and told my aunt she could buy me a bible and I'd read "some" of it. I insisted it not be the NWT and she agreed, but then she went and got me the NWT. LMFAO! I should have seen that one coming! She said the other ones were very expensive, and I have to give her the benefit of the doubt, but it still leaves an odd aftertaste, like she "placed" some WTS propoganda on me.

    It has crossed my mind that now I have her bible I could REALLY fuck with her head, but I'm trying to resist that particular temptation. I doubt the result would be particularly funny anyhow. At least it gives me some credibility in her eyes, and new places to argue from.

    True to my word, I have started reading it, and at about chapter 6 of genesis it hit me like a ton of bricks: O M F G they ACTUALLY BELIEVE this is LITERALLY TRUE.

    Maybe it never occurred to me before, or maybe it's just because I'd never read it, but when I read it and realised that they really believe it, I was, to put it mildly, disturbed.

    No wonder they have such a problem with science. These days, science routinely makes discoveries that refute their world view, especially when it comes to the theory of evolution. Not only are things much older than they reckon, we could have evolved from simpler forms, shich throws out everything they think they know about human origins.

    I finally get it.

    Anyway, the discussions have gotten more intense as of late, and I'm hoping beyond hope that it's because I'm getting somewhere. I try to balance the need to be kind with the need to make progress.

    *sigh* this is very tiring. oh well, in for a penny, in for a pound.

  • candidlynuts
    candidlynuts

    you think genesis is whack, just wait till you get to isaiah ,daniel, ezekial and that bunch lol

    handle your aunt with love, she's not the enemy. good luck

  • Odrade
    Odrade

    LMAO! if she had given you a non-WTS bible, she wouldn't have been able to count the book placement on her field service report. *grin*
    keep it up with the kindness, you're doing great!

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge

    I'm not preach'en here, but as much as I laugh and shake my head at some of the "nonsense" in the Bible, there ARE treasures to be found. My experience has been that the Bible will speak it's truths to an open heart, just take the rest with a grain of salt. my 2 cents.

    D.E.

  • MinisterAmos
    MinisterAmos

    Kudos to Doubledge.

    If everyone followed the very freakin' simple advice gleaned fron the Sermon on the Mount (Mat 7:15?) the world would be geometrically better.

    As far as Genesis goes, I just had a Dub explain to me that the world is 40K years old? I've got food in the fridge older than that.

  • osmosis
    osmosis

    Double Edge: that's totally cool with me. I've never claimed that there wasn't *wisdom* in the bible. I never said there were no evocative stories or what I call "human truth", I just get very nervous when I find out someone thinks that every part of it is literally true. That's insanity, pure and simple.

  • Shazard
    Shazard

    I am not JW, but just wandering, why do you believe science saying the evolution is true?
    Have you investigated their claims and responses from scientests themselves that doubg evolution.

    I would suggest better to get real Bible and not start from Genesis, but from Gospels. Then you will be able to fight them on their own field.

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    What you are saying raises the evolution versus creation debate. There was a time when there were no humans and a start had to be made somewhere so God created a human pair. There is nothing mythical or strange about this story as such.

    The rest of the debate on the merits and weaknesses of the two sides is vast.

  • sass_my_frass
    sass_my_frass

    hon I'm worried about how much you're obsessing over your aunt. You need a new interest methinks; this one is going to send you into a depression.

  • jgnat
    jgnat
    I just get very nervous when I find out someone thinks that every part of it is literally true. That's insanity, pure and simple.

    Yes. You've had quite a revelation there. Remind me to introduce you to my friend "Shining One" some time.

    Here's some verses to chew over with your Aunt.

    1 Corinthians 13:1-13 http://www.greatbooks.org/library/religions/christianity/love/corinthians.shtml

    Galatians 5:22-23 http://www.christians.org/grow/grow10.html

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