How Were You Affected By Elder/Ministerial Servants/Pioneer Appointments? (page 2)

greendawn

"I've seen total goofballs become "elders/ministerial servants"."

I also witnessed this happening when someone got appointed as an elder though he was obviously not suited for such an office, everyone knew it was his father in law, a presiding elder,that did it.

It didn't bother me as I had no ambitions but some other JWs that did were very sore about this. He was a nice person in fact but immature.

NewYork44M

I never quite understood the concept of appointment of pioneers as if that was a privilege. It alwas seemed to me that anyone that was willing to put in 90hrs a month would be appointed. If there was favoritism it went over my head. It was not like they got a discount on literature or an assembly meal ticket or any other special treatment.

I can't remember any MS or elder appointments that up set me. I was appointed a MS at about the age of 21 and remained for about 15 years until I was appointed elder. In the beginning I was dissappointed that I was not promoted to elder. But by the time I was appointed elder I had already started my long long fade. So much for being appointed by HS.

justsomedude

I never quite understood the concept of appointment of pioneers as if that was a privilege. It alwas seemed to me that anyone that was willing to put in 90hrs a month would be appointed. If there was favoritism it went over my head. It was not like they got a discount on literature or an assembly meal ticket or any other special treatment.

Actually they used to get discounts on literature (if I remember correctly) and food tickets at the assembly were discounted.

Dismembered

Yup you are correct justsomedude

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Forscher

By the time I was 24, I was the only male above about 20 in my congregation who was not on the servant body (elder or ministerial servant). That didn't mean I wasn't busy. I pretty much supervised the mike handlers, took care of the sound, helped in the Magazine department, and assisted with an isolated group about 40 miles away (it was during the gas crisis and the elders and ministerial servants were all too cheap to put the gas in their tanks and drive out there. So the little group was supervised by a ministerial servant who couldn't get out of it and me.).
I was told, however, that since I wasn't married, I couldn't be recommended for any postion which required appointment by the society. They cited the requirement in 1 Timothy that those selected be "husbands of one wife", they held that meant that only married brothers could bre appointed. I knew better, but had no recourse but to go along with the game. When I married, the mask came off and I was told point-blank not to think that my new status as a married brother would matter a wit. Then I was relieved of all responsibilities I'd been caring for.
It goes without saying that it was very depressing to sit there year after year and watch some very incompetent men get appointed within a year or two after they came in if they were already married, or shortly after they married. Many of them didn't even bother to do their appointed jobs after they were appointed and got away with it for years. At one point, the congregation had avbout 11-12 elders and about 16 ministerial servants. That was a servant body of about 28 for a congregation of a little over 100. I remember a couple of those elders couldn't even read publicly or give a public talk!
Like I said, it was pretty depressing to be the only brother over twenty not on the servant body. And that despite the fact that several COs in a row pushed for me to be appointed.
By the way, when my position as assistant to the isolated group was taken away, the group was disbanded by the elders and forced to drive that 40 miles to the sunday meetings and bookstudy since they couldn't find a replacement for me. Within a few years, the WTBS took that territory away from the congregation and gave it to another about the same distance away, who would at least support a book study group out there. By that time, about half the group had either quit or been disfellowshipped. And all because the sorry elders in my congregation didn't want the responsibility!

Forscher

Honesty

How Were You Affected By Elder/Ministerial Servants/Pioneer Appointments?

I saw a lot of problems develop because of some appointments.

Funny thing is, in my "Babylon the Great" church there are so many people (women and children aren't discriminated against here) willing to help so no one gets overworked, downtrodden or depressed.

Oh yeah, they don't know what it means to be 'strong in da truth' either.

minimus

"Brother fat pig elder's anus".....I never heard that one before!

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Min,

You'd need to have been in our hall to get the picture

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notperfectyet

Hey Mini,

It didn't bother me cuz I was a seester.

But it did bother my son, he left the hall because all of his friends who were losers. ( alcholics, womanizers etc. ) were all appointed as ms's. It wasn't until he was shunned, became a fireman/ paramedic because he was in college, but pioneered the whole time. He will soon be an elder, married and making a good living. But 10 years later, his friends who made fun of him, are elders, but still live at home.

It bothered him to the point, he proved a point. Poor him.

The answer to your question is...I think they appoint retards to make the smart ones work harder.

minimus

How you feelin', NPY???

How Were You Affected By Elder/Ministerial Servants/Pioneer Appointments?

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