CAMPAIGN: Partake at the coming Memorial on the basis of John 6:53

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  • Deleted
    Deleted

    Hello practicing JWs.

    Please do Jesus a favor and Choose Life. Please partake at the Memorial, it only makes sense.

    It will also screw-up the statistics!!

    John Chapter Six:

    52 Therefore the Jews began contending with one another, saying: “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” 53 Accordingly Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to YOU , Unless YOU eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, YOU have no life in yourselves. 54 He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I shall resurrect him at the last day; 55 for my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him. 57 Just as the living Father sent me forth and I live because of the Father, he also that feeds on me, even that one will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. It is not as when YOUR forefathers ate and yet died. He that feeds on this bread will live forever.” 59 These things he said as he was teaching in public assembly at Ca·per´na·um.

  • misspeaches
    misspeaches

    I hear you.... but there's no way I could bring myself to step inside a kingdom hall again.

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge

    I've never been a dub. A few years ago my JW friend invited me to the memorial, explaining the service and who would partake - those having the 'heavenly hope' , yada, yada, yada. Just before they started passing the emblems, I leaned over to my friend and said, "you know, according to my beliefs, I DO have the heavenly hope" .... you should have seen their eyes .... not knowing if I were going to take the emblems or not (hehe .... I didn't)

  • Carmel
    Carmel

    THE SYMBOLISM OF THE BREAD AND THE WINE

    Question. -- The Christ said: "I am the living bread which came down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof and not die."[1] What is the meaning of this utterance?
    [1 Cf. John 6:51, 50.]

    Answer. -- This bread signifies the heavenly food and divine perfections. So, "If any man eateth of this bread" means if any man acquires heavenly bounty, receives the divine light, or partakes of Christ's perfections, he thereby gains everlasting life. The blood also signifies the spirit of life and the divine perfections, the lordly splendor and eternal bounty. For all the members of the body gain vital substance from the circulation of the blood.

    In the Gospel of St. John, chapter 6, verse 26, it is written: "Ye seek Me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled."

    It is evident that the bread of which the disciples ate and were filled was the heavenly bounty; for in verse 33 of the same chapter it is said: "For the bread of God is He which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world." It is clear that the body of Christ did not descend from heaven, but it came from the womb of Mary; and that which descended from the heaven of God was the spirit of Christ. As the Jews thought that Christ spoke of His body, they made objections, for it is said in the 42nd verse of the same chapter: "And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?"

    Reflect how clear it is that what Christ meant by the heavenly bread was His spirit, His bounties, His perfections and His teachings; for it is said in the 63rd verse: "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing."

    Therefore, it is evident that the spirit of Christ is a heavenly grace which descends from heaven; whosoever receives light from that spirit in abundance -- that is to say, the heavenly teachings -- finds everlasting life. That is why it is said in the 35th verse: "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to Me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on Me shall never thirst."

    Notice that "coming to Him" He expresses as eating, and "belief in Him" as drinking. Then it is evident and established that the celestial food is the divine bounties, the spiritual splendors, the heavenly teachings, the universal meaning of Christ. To eat is to draw near to Him, and to drink is to believe in Him. For Christ had an elemental body and a celestial form. The elemental body was crucified, but the heavenly form is living and eternal, and the cause of everlasting life; the first was the human nature, and the second is the divine nature. It is thought by some that the Eucharist is the reality of Christ, and that the Divinity and the Holy Spirit descend into and exist in it. Now when once the Eucharist is taken, after a few moments it is simply disintegrated and entirely transformed. Therefore, how can such a thought be conceived? God forbid! certainly it is an absolute fantasy.

    To conclude: through the manifestation of Christ, the divine teachings, which are an eternal bounty, were spread abroad, the light of guidance shone forth, and the spirit of life was conferred on man. Whoever found guidance became living; whoever remained lost was seized by enduring death. This bread which came down from heaven was the divine body of Christ, His spiritual elements, which the disciples ate, and through which they gained eternal life.

    The disciples had taken many meals from the hand of Christ; why was the last supper distinguished from the others? It is evident that the heavenly bread did not signify this material bread, but rather the divine nourishment of the spiritual body of Christ, the divine graces and heavenly perfections of which His disciples partook, and with which they became filled.

    In the same way, reflect that when Christ blessed the bread and gave it to His disciples, saying, "This is My body,"[1] and gave grace to them, He was with them in person, in presence, and form. He was not transformed into bread and wine; if He had been turned into bread and wine, He could not have remained with the disciples in body, in person and in presence.
    [1 Matt. 26:26.]

    Then it is clear that the bread and wine were symbols which signified: I have given you My bounties and perfections, and when you have received this bounty, you have gained eternal life and have partaken of your share and your portion of the heavenly nourishment.

    (Abdu'l-Baha, Some Answered Questions, p. 98)

  • bob1999
    bob1999

    When I was 12, just after being babtized in the Church of Christ, my grandmother (a JW) took me to "the memorial". I thought she was going to die when I took the emblems just as I did every Sunday at my church.

    It's strange, not being a witness, to realize the JW's don't think they are part of the New Covenant. If, when babtized, one is not babtized into the new covenant then what are you babtized into?

    I can not find, in the bible, where people are babtized into two different forms of salvation.

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free
    It's strange, not being a witness, to realize the JW's don't think they are part of the New Covenant. If, when babtized, one is not babtized into the new covenant then what are you babtized into?

    Jehovah's Witnesses are baptized into a cult, specifically into the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, and that corporation is their god. Unfortunately, most of them don't know that.

    I won't partake™ at their memorial™ because I won't be there. I will not lend legitimacy to them by being present.

    W

  • James Free
    James Free

    it won't screw up the statistics - not everyone who partakes is counted, only the ones the elders can vouch for as being witnesses in good standing.

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    Mabyee next year, that may be when i'm ready to cut the rope. Good luck to all of you out there who do decide to partake. Make sure to share your stories!

  • Little Bo Peep
    Little Bo Peep

    My husband and I have celebrated the "Memorial" in our home the past two years. It has been quite a moving experience. We spend time reading and talking about a number of scriptures. We read most of the scriptures dealing with the event itself, as well as related scriptures: Matthew 26:20-29; Mark 14:17-26; Luke 22:14-30; John 13:1-35; 1 Corinthians 10:16,17; 11:23-27. We also read a number of scriptues relating to the heavenly hope and salvation from Christ Jesus: Acts 4:12; 10:43; Matthew 19:27-29; John 3:16; 6:40, 51-58; Galations 3:26-28. We bought "kosher" wine and I made unleavened bread from a recipe I found. The Bible said Jesus sang after the supper, so we sang song #87, The Lord's Evening Meal. We looked over the "song", since it was from the JW songbook, to see if there was anything objectionable, and felt it expressed the scriptures well, which is a surprise! All in all it was a very moving experience, unlike anything from the Kingdom Hall. Jesus said to keep doing this till he came again, so it's uncertain if he meant "70 CE" or later, but observing the Memorial as a Memorial for what he did for us is still important to us.

  • KW13
    KW13

    i am at uncles, so i rang mum and told her to read those scriptures in John then i rang off....

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