You're not allowed to say anything to Jesus

by JH 28 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • JH
    JH

    So, if Jesus isn't our brother, but the 144,000 are brothers to each other, doesn' this mean that an annointed brother at the hall isn't my brother...

  • blondie
    blondie

    Good point, JH. Jesus is only brother to the anointed. The great crowd are only his friend. Actually in WT doctrine, Jesus (Lamb) marries the 144,000 (Bride) and the humans on earth, GC and resurrected are their children.

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    w95 10/15 p. 26 What Future for the Sheep and the Goats? ***

    Jesus counts as done to him what the other sheep do for his brothers on earth

  • unclebruce
    unclebruce
    If Jesus is our 'brother', why couldn't we talk to him? ;

    ***Well, that's just it.....he isn't our brother, he is the brother of the 144,000 only... ***

    But JH, Star Moore may have heavenly aspirations

  • Star Moore
    Star Moore

    If a person is a christian...then he is a brother of Christ.. I don't believe in 2 classes of Christians...one elite, one not...

  • MerryMagdalene
    MerryMagdalene

    All of the following is pretty nauseating, but am I reading the high-lighted portion wrong, or does the WTS actually consider the anointed to be some sort of joint-mediators with Jesus in the realm of prayer as well as worship?

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    Paul confirms what comprises the right approach to God and what the temple is that Jehovah inhabits by spirit to receive the prayers of his worshipers: "Through him [Jesus Christ] we, both peoples, have the approach to the Father by one spirit. . . . you [the anointed ones] have been built up upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, while Christ Jesus himself is the foundation cornerstone. In union with him the whole building, being harmoniously joined together, is growing into a holy temple for Jehovah. In union with him you, too, are being built up together into a place for God to inhabit by spirit." (Eph. 2:18, 20-22) A remaining part of that new, spiritual temple still operates on the earth to this day. Such remnant of anointed ones serves as a channel through which a "great crowd" from all nations are rendering Jehovah God" sacred service day and night in his temple."—Rev. 7:9, 15.

    ISAIAH

    FORESEES GRAND FLOW OF SACRED SERVICE

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    For these final days upon Satan’s wicked world of mankind the prophet Isaiah foresaw an earth-wide flow of worshipers coming into association with Jehovah’s spiritual house, many members of which are now standing on the heavenly Zion. (Rev. 14:1) The anointed remnant who make up the visible portion of Jehovah’s temple are thus seen to be high up in Jehovah’s favor since the year 1919 (Rev. 11:12), and they elevate the worship of Jehovah God, putting it high above all other considerations on earth. This is just as long ago foretold: "And it must occur in the final part of the days that the mountain of the house of Jehovah will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, and it will certainly be lifted up above the hills; and to it all the nations must stream. And many peoples will certainly go and say: ‘Come, you people, and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will instruct us about his ways, and we will walk in his paths.’ For out of Zion law will go forth, and the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem."—Isa. 2:2, 3.

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    All the above-described vast throng of worshipers come as dedicated ones well instructed in Jehovah’s theocratic requirements. They do not come empty-handed without gifts for their loving God. Rather, they come full of pleasing ‘sacrifices of praise,’ full of right public declarations that they have learned how to make through Jehovah’s anointed ones still on earth. (Heb. 13:15) Yes, these "foreigners" out of the nations have "joined themselves to Jehovah" by making a dedication in association with the anointed remnant of spiritual Israel. (Zech. 8:23; Gal. 6:16) All these of the "great crowd" from the nations also come to offer their prayers through Jehovah’s temple arrangement.

    --WT 64 9/16 Nations Come to Jehovah's House to Pray

    Not to mention, their interpretation of Ephesians 2:18-22 is totally skewed

    ~Merry

  • inquirer
    inquirer

    JH

    So, if Jesus isn't our brother, but the 144,000 are brothers to each other, doesn' this mean that an annointed brother at the hall isn't my brother...

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    Please make more posts like this. I love to have a good laugh.

  • inquirer
    inquirer

    Unclebruce
    If Jesus is our 'brother', why couldn't we talk to him?
    ***Well, that's just it.....he isn't our brother, he is the brother of the 144,000 only... ***





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    MORE AND MORE LAUGHS ARE COMING MY WAY!!!!!!!!!! :d lol

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    OK, I'll widen out here..

    The dubs teach that there is some formula to prayers and so they must end with the words, "through our Lord, Jesus Christ. Amen" or something similar. Right?

    Well, where's that in the Bible? Did Jesus teach a formula? Did the apostles?

    This becomes all the stranger then when we consider the Watchtower quotes mentioned above in this thread. Dubs are to speak through Jesus, yet he's not their mediator!! The more you think about it, it's really weird, isn't it?

  • EAGLE-1
    EAGLE-1

    I would talk to Jesus but I think the last time he thought or said anything was 'Why the hell am I doing this???? '

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