Trying to find cross v. stake topics

by Sad emo 42 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Sad emo
    Sad emo

    Can anybody please help me out with some links on the cross versus torture stake debate either on JWD or external sites? I know there was a thread on here not so long ago but I can't find it.

    Also, if any of you long time posters can recommend any outstanding ones from the deepest recesses of JWD which you might have kept as favourites, I would be most grateful

    I have to go offline for a while now so many thanks in advance for your help.

    emo

  • TheListener
    TheListener

    Here is one from Leolais's thread some time ago. It's awesome.

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/92381/1559200/post.ashx#1559200

  • SickofLies
    SickofLies

    Wow, that was a great write up. Very impressive.

  • Sad emo
    Sad emo

    Thank you so much Listener! I'm going to print that post so I can take my time reading it. At a glance, it appears to have answers to most of my questions.

    Leolaias topics are brilliant - maybe we should get some of the main ones together in the 'Best of' section.

  • Kenneson
    Kenneson

    I found this thread interesting as well.

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/105095/1.ashx

  • Mrs.Congeniality
  • Mrs.Congeniality
    Mrs.Congeniality

    I HOPE THIS HELPS- JOHN 20:25= Consequently the other disciples would say to him: "We have seen the Lord!" But he(Thomas) said to them: "Unless I see in his hands the print of the NAILS and stick my finger into the print of the NAILS and stick my hand into his side, I will certainly not believe."

  • Mrs.Congeniality
    Mrs.Congeniality

    sorry about my first reply I couldnt get the red underline and highlighter to stop working I didnt realize it posted. Sorry!!!!!

  • no one
    no one

    Sad Emo,

    Here is a link that contains a scan of the "Imperial Bible Dictionary" which the WT uses as a quote in their 'Reasoning From the Scriptures' book. Notice how the WT manipulates the quote through an ellipse to achieve the reasoning in their publication, while hiding information that contradicts their position.

    http://members.tripod.com/sosoutreach/phone/crossx.html

  • Sad emo
    Sad emo

    Thank you kenneson - that lack of comparison of the stake to Asherah (sp?) poles when witnesses so enjoy equating a cross with pagan symbols has made me think a lot (this was partly why I'm wanting to look more into the subject)

    Thank you too MrsCongeniality for the Scripture quote. I think (I need to double check this) that the Reasoning book has some refutation against the plural translation of 'nail/nails' but I just had a quick read of the link that no one posted and the correct reasoning seems to be there.

    Thank you no one - it's always a huge help to read where they get their quotes from and look at the full version and see what's been omitted.

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