JW FUNERAL OUTLINE english and spanish PRINT AND TAKE WITH U

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  • What-A-Coincidence
    What-A-Coincidence

    FUNERAL DISCOURSE

    REMARKS REGARDING THE DECEASED (Use any that apply and are appropriate.)

    (Note: Instead of eulogizing the deceased, use the material in this outline to give a fine witness concerning the truth. Good balance should be observed in this respect. Doctrinal points can be presented as beliefs of the deceased, which served as motivation for him. Purpose of talk is to uphold Jehovah God as a God of love and mercy and at the same time bring comfort to the bereaved. Use of a song such as No. 102 (53) or 187 (93) is optional. A brief prayer at the close is fitting. When arrangement is made to go to the grave, it is well to consider quite briefly the hope through Kingdom, reading one or two scriptures, such as Job

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    Details regarding age, birth, when married, and so forth

    By whom the deceased is survived

    Dedication record, including privileges of service

    Exemplary qualities displayed by the deceased (Eccl. 7:1)

    THE HOPE THE DECEASED ENTERTAINED

    Worshiped Jehovah, the God of wisdom, justice, love, power

    Had faith in Jesus Christ (Acts )

    Appreciated God's purpose regarding the earth (Gen. 2:7)

    Sure to be realized (Isa. 11:9; 55:10, 11; Rev. 21:4)

    Why good people die

    Disobedience of Adam (Gen. 3:19; contrast with Genesis 2:7.)

    Offspring inherited death (Rom. )

    Condition of the dead

    Soul is mortal (Ezek. 18:4, 20)

    Dead are unconscious (Ps. 146:4; Eccl. ; 9:5, 10)

    The resurrection hope

    Made possible by sacrifice of Jesus Christ (Matt. )

    Christ's resurrection a guarantee (1 Cor. , 23)

    God uses Jesus to raise the dead (John , 29)

    For the anointed, resurrection is to heavenly life (1 Cor. -54; Rev. 20:4, 6)

    "Other sheep" resurrected to life in earthly (Luke ; John )

    Armageddon survivors can hope to see the deceased one again soon

    Others too are in line for resurrection (Acts 24:15)

    WHY IT IS GOOD TO GO TO HOUSE OF MOURNING

    Can comfort the bereaved; loss is mutual

    Take to heart uncertainty of life (Ps. 90:12; Eccl. 7:2)

    Makes us think about how we are using our life

    HOW WE CAN BENEFIT FROM BEING HERE

    While living, make good name with Jehovah God (Eccl. 7:1)

    Lay up treasures in heaven (Matt. -21)

    One way is to take zealous part in witness work, if qualified (Matt. 24:14; 28:19, 20)

    In this way and by godly conduct, we contribute to sanctification of Jehovah's name (Prov. 27:11)

    Resurrection hope an incentive to learn and do divine will (1 Cor. )

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    DISCURSO DE FUNERAL

    COMENTARIOS SOBRE EL DIFUNTO

    (Utilice comentarios que apliquen y sean apropiados.) Detalles sobre la edad, fecha de nacimiento, fecha de matrimonio, y así sucesivamente Quién o quiénes sobreviven al difunto Registro de dedicación, incluso privilegios de servicio Cualidades ejemplares que desplegó el difunto (Ecl. 7:1)

    LA ESPERANZA QUE ABRIGABA EL DIFUNTO

    Adoraba a Jehová, el Dios de sabiduría, justicia, amor y poder Tenía fe en Jesucristo (Hech. 4:12) Apreciaba el propósito de Dios con relación a la Tierra (Gén. 1:28)

    De seguro se realizará ese propósito (Isa. 11:9; 55:10, 11; Rev. 21:4)

    Por qué mueren las personas buenas

    Desobediencia de Adán (Gén. 3:19; contrástese con Génesis 2:7.)

    Sus descendientes heredaron la muerte (Rom. 5:12)

    La condición de los muertos

    El alma es mortal (Eze. 18:4, 20)

    Los muertos están inconscientes (Sal. 146:4; EcI. 3:19; 9:5, 10)

    La esperanza de la resurrección

    Es posible gracias al sacrificio de Jesucristo (Mat. 20:28)

    La resurrección de Cristo sirve de garantía (1 Cor. 15:22, 23)

    Dios usa a Jesús para levantar a los muertos (Juan 5:28, 29)

    Para los ungidos, la resurrección es a vida celestial (1 Cor. 15:51-54; Rev. 20:4, 6)

    Las "otras ovejas" serán resucitadas a vida en una Tierra paradisfaca (Luc. 23:43; Juan

    10:16)

    Los que sobrevivan al Armagedón pueden tener la esperanza de ver al difunto de nuevo pronto

    Otros también serán resucitados (Hech. 24:15)

    POR QUE, ES BUENO IR A LA CASA DEL DUELO

    Para consolar a los afligidos; la pérdida es mutua

    Para tomar a pecho lo incierta que es la vida (Sal. 90:12; Ecl. 7:2)

    Nos estimula a reflexionar sobre cómo usamos nuestra vida

    CóMO PODEMOS BENEFICIARNOS DE ESTAR AQUI

    Mientras estemos vivos debemos hacemos un buen nombre con Jehová Dios (EcI. 7:1)

    Acumulemos tesoros en el cielo (Mat. 6:19-21)

    Una manera de hacerlo, si caUficamos para ello, es mediante participar celosamente en la testificación (Mat. 24:14; 28:19, 20)

    Al hacer esto y desplegar una conducta piadosa contribuimos a la santificación del nombre de Jehová (Pro. 27:11)

    La esperanza de la resurrección sirve de incentivo para aprender la voluntad divina y ponerla en práctica (1 Cor. 15:58)

    (Nota: En vez de elogiar en exceso al difunto, la información de este discurso debe suministrar un excelente testimonio tocante a la verdad. Se debe ejercer buen juicio al respecto. Los puntos doctrinales pueden presentarse como creencias del difunto, las cuales le sirvieron de motivación. El propósito del discurso es poner en alto a Jehová Dios como el Dios de amor y misericordia, y al mismo tiempo consolar a los que han perdido a un ser querido. El usar un cántico, como el núm. 102 (53) o el 187 (93), es opcional. Es apropiado concluir con una oración corta. Cuando se hacen arreglos para ir al lugar de entierro, es bueno considerar brevemente la esperanza que hay por medio del Reino y leer uno o dos textos, tales como Job 14:14, 15 y 1 Corintios 15:54b-57. Este servicio también puede concluirse con una oración en la que se da gracias a Jehová por la esperanza de la resurrección, la cual sirve de gran consuelo. No es necesario que el discurso dure más de 30 minutos.)

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  • hubert
    hubert

    Thanks, WAC, I printed it out.

    Hubert

  • nicolaou
    nicolaou

    W-A-C

    I've no reason to doubt that what you've posted is genuine, for the record 'I believe you', but a scan of the original would have far more credibility than just a text post. I almost couldn't believe that the first instruction was to discourage elders from "eulogizing the deceased".

    Thanks for posting this.

  • What-A-Coincidence
    What-A-Coincidence

    i can understand Nicolau...

    no kidding right?

    I'll try to get em :-)

  • nicolaou
    nicolaou

    excellent!

    Nic'

  • stolenyouth
    stolenyouth

    Thanks for printing that, if it isn't bad enough that one's loved ones lives are hijacked so are their deaths. I wrote out what I wanted the JW "minister" - they are not after all tribal elders and clearly their only function on earth is to preach even to the converted - to say about my father at his funeral word for word - no outline. Even so this was altered for their nefarious purposes or so I am told. I wasn't able to bear the grief of being at a witness funeral service. After all he wasn't there and those who were there didn't really know him at all - so sad.

    Do they have any recommendations regarding after service and burial conduct? My mother was greatly troubled by the expectation that she should put on a "tea" refreshments and such. Many well meaning "friends" took umbrage that she did not want people to the house afterwards and they kept insisting that it was OK ( by them ! ) - they would bring a "few cakes". Privately mum was a bit indignant. After all ,she said it's not as if we're Irish!

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    The outline looks about right, to me, from memory.. I can certainly remember the direction not to eulogise the deceased. The intention was to give an up building talk and encourage the mourners to come to a JW meeting.

    I only gave one funeral and that was my father's. I was a M S at the time an when I asked our PO to provide a speaker he surprised me by asking if I wanted to do it myself. I realised then that it no doubt meant that the elders did not want the extra job to do, after all my Dad was not a Witness.

    I thought a moment and then accepted. I figured that Dad would have liked the idea, and I could at least make it personal to him. I was never one for following the instructions too closely so I did the talk as I saw fit , describing the man and what I believed to be the 'hope for the dead'. It was not easy to find words that that set out all of that but did not confirm that he would get a resurrection , after all he never believed....

    The service was at the non denominational chapel at the local crematorium. It felt weird to press the button to send the coffin on its way. I felt I was consigning him to the flames. My finger hovered over the button for a moment or two.

    Strange memories

  • anewme
    anewme

    My husband gave maybe 10 funeral talks while he was elder. Honestly, nobody criticizes the elder for giving a really from the heart funeral talk which eulogizes the deceased AND conveys the hope for the dead.

    My husband was not able to type due to his severe disabilities and so it was my job to type and also to add suggestions as to grammar, spelling and content.

    We read the cautionary notes at the top of the outline, but chose to ignore them. Many times the talk was given at the grave site where there were few other elders present. One was delivered in a back yard. Never was there any counsel for his at times lively and humorous delivery.

    It is a hard talk to give and most elders were glad to not have to give it. My husband always did a splendid job and I must say I enjoyed adding bits about the persons life throughout the talk right up to the end.
    I remember vividly the funeral talk of a very flamboyant and flirtatious sister! She was 75 and still hitting on the younger brothers in the hall and talked of remarriage right up to the time of her heart attack. Everyone knew how much she wanted to keep living and see the end of things. She was a lively attendee at the meetings and her answers were from a person who had been in the org FOREVER y'know.

    I have always said and maintain, alot of men are not confident speakers and follow the outlines exactly. But it is just an outline and is meant for direction, not parroting.
    The best talks I ever heard at kingdom halls or assembly halls were from the confident speakers, those who were confident in their place in the org. My ex-husband was/is a man like that. Together we would take a talk and completely rework it to create a memorable masterpiece! (Im sure he misses me for that contribution)
    Today he is so confident of the resurrection and the paradise! He is currently conducting three studies from his wheelchair and everyone is considered a candidate for a study in his mind!
    He is the REAL THING as far as witnesses go. (Of course it was all too much for me, but you gotta respect the guy for giving the JW thing 100%)

    He's gonna have a great funeral someday. (Wish I could help write it. Honest to God, if anyone deserves a second chance at life it is him. He has served Jehovah zealously for 33 years, 26 from his wheelchair. He broke his neck and is numb from the neck down since age 24.

    My point is THE FUNERAL OUTLINE IS ONLY AN OUTLINE AND JUST USE IT AS A GUIDE BUT ENJOY TALKING ABOUT THE DECEASED AND POINT OUT THE HOPE OF RESURRECTION. Make it memorable! And dry the tears of the bereaved.

    And I think getting together afterwards is healthy, but understandable if some dont feel like doing it.

    My 2 cents,

    Anewme

  • Lady Liberty
    Lady Liberty

    Dear What-a-Coincidence,

    Thank you for this post! I sent it to several family members. My family was CRUSHED at the talk given for my Grandfather who died last spring. My Dad timed how long they actually talked about his Father. Just under 5 minutes!!! The ENTIRE rest of the time was spent, just like this outline shows, giving a "talk". We really felt like they were preaching at all of the family who was no longer in ther organization. I felt lke we were at a "meeting", not a memorial. We were all disgusted! My cousins sat there shaking their heads with disgust! Basically all the Elder did was read the obituary!!! It was especially AMAZING because we all made a point to talk with my (Witness) Grandmother ahead of time before she met with the Elder giving the talk, asking her to please make sure he really TALKED about Grandpa and his life! She assured us she would. My Grandfather was a colorful, loving person,known for making people laugh with all his stories. At family get togethers, we would always end up gathered around his chair for a hour or two of good laughs as he recalled his youth and all the crazy things he and his brothers did while growing up! With his front gold tooth just a gleeming. It would have been so heartwarming to hear them tell all about those times. But NO! They had one AGENDA! And it still is VERY painful to think it could of been so different. Anyway, Thank you for your post.

    Sincerely,

    Lady Liberty

  • Jim_TX
    Jim_TX

    For what it's worth...

    My sister passed on - on April 1st, and her funeral was the next week. She had just turned 53.

    She was a JW, and the rest of my family, also JWs. The 'talk' was given at her service by a JW - and it followed verbatum this outline. *shudder*

    The thing that gets me... this b.s. takes 30 minutes. It gets repeated at the gravesite, too.

    Something that these bozos do not take into account is the feelings/condition of the folks attending.

    My relatives - who mostly just attend the gravesite which is over 70 miles away, are getting up in years. My aunt is 94, and the rest are not less than 70.

    The bozo gave the same 30 minute lecture... regardless of the elder folks - some who had to stand there for the whole time.

    All I can think of was he was 'counting time'... and his field service report will look good for the month of April.

    The only good thing about it was that my sister was a School Crossing Guard... for almost 30 years. She had built up a reputation with the locals at the school where she crossed the kiddos.

    There were many who came who were from the school, or the crossing guards where she worked.

    The school even had the school patrol kids all in their uniforms, and standing at 'attention' with their school signs, the school flag at half-mast - as the herse passed by on its way to the gravesite.

    My other sister was not too pleased with that... all she could do was just smile and politely say 'thank you', to most of the comments made. (I knew that it was grinding her, though. heh heh)

    Regards,

    Jim TX

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