by Check_Your_Premises 14 Replies latest jw friends
I am seeing that all organized religion has some cultic characteristics
This is an interesting topic. Make sure you keep one thing straight in your mind. What makes a group a cult is NOT what they believe, it is how they behave. The focus of this behavior is on control. A cult tries to transfer control from the individual to the group.
I am sorry if my words sting
Does not sting, We each have our opinions, views and interpretations of things, No one can fully understand what someone really believes or what they are feeling because reality is we are not living in their shoes. We sometimes think we can, because we have experienced similar things, but It just is not possible.
I do have some experience in the power of faith
I have many years in the power of faith, I was in the Baptist church until I was 12, Then went to pentecostal and non demoniational churches from 12 On. I have been in many teachings with renowned teachers, and preachers. I have dated guys that were catholic, methodist etc... I don't think there is one religion out there that is perfect and has all the answers, I take from them what checks from my understanding of the bible and what I get a check in my spirit. Even the WTS, Has some good bible qualitites, However unfortunately there are many cultic characteristics also the are far more outwaying than the few truths.
see how faith is misused by the Watchtower society and I see some of those same elements in you.
As far as faith being misused, I agree that some could see it that way, I also know the teaching and foundations I have grown up with, plus my own convictions. My Faith is in God and nothing else.
How old are you? Are you still of childbearing years, Serving this man may permanently deprive you of a family
I am 43 years old. I have five wonderful children ages 20, 18, 16, 13, and 10. My 18 year old has primary pulmonary hypertension and is waiting a double lung transplant. I had a tubal 10 years ago after last child ( big mistake) so therefore I can't have anymore children, unless God does a miracle. About serving this man, Serving a man is not a relationship, God does not intend for a man or a woman to serve one another, He made woman to compliment man. I am serving no man and the only person I do serve is God.
Before someon highlights my miralce comment, don't bother, I do belive in Miracles, my daughter is a walking one right now. Doctors can not figure out why she was not dead and how she walked into the hospital on her own two feet almost 4 years ago. He has done many mini miralces in my life I belive in a God that can do all this, If he were to give me the miracle of having another child I would welcome it with open arms.
I noticed my parents were not abusive before being abducted by the Jahliens.They were very loving etc.After they became jdubz they were like those mean priests you see in a Joan Of Arc film or a an SS officer.What was bad is my thoughts were homocidial not suicidial (spelling?).I wanted justice but our govt allows religious freedom no matter what the result and no one would believe me anyway.I held on and got out.If those people could have read my mind when I was 12 or 13 they would have been scared s---less.Fortunetly I had an entire non-jdub family to rely on.Whats really sick is when my mom tells me about one of THEM dying it is hard for me to say oh Im sorry--I want to say good ---yea!!!! They reap what they sow I guess.Believe it or not I am really a very nice moral person but at the mention of them or muslims I fell like going ballistic.
I have five wonderful children ages 20, 18, 16, 13, and 10. My 18 year old has primary pulmonary hypertension and is waiting a double lung transplant.
Well, we have something else in common. We are both women of energy. I waited until my children were grown before I seriously went looking, and I've made it clear to my new JW husband that I am the parent.
I suspect some of my husband's charm is his diamond-rough personality. He's a work in progress, and as I was a hard-working single parent with no parenting left to do, I took him on as a fun project at a lonely phase of my life.
I'll give you a few warning bells, just in case, to protect your children. JW's are very uneven parents. My husband strongly favors one of my children over the other. One of my children could be the poster-child for Obedient-JW-Youth-Of-The-Year. The other, from all appearances, is under the dominion of the Prince of the Air. I roughly refuse to allow my husband to prefer one over the other, and it helps a LOT that they are on their own away from my home.
He still tries to coax my "good" child to the meetings, though. He can't help it. It's what he's been taught.
JW's put on a good show for mutual respect and all that, but in reality there is only one reality they will accept; be a part of it and be accepted, or get out of their lives.
It would be devastating if ANY of your children were to be swayed by the JW doctrine. They would most likely shun you in the future. Read some of GaryBus's threads if you don't believe me.
Also, just a heads-up, a JW parent would probably allow your second child to die rather than take a blood transfusion. The JW lifestyle comes at a cruel price.
Perhaps most of this is a moot point. As far as I know, the man you love has already decided to return to the meetings and give you up. If he does come swinging back your way, I'd be sure to nail him down on his stand on accepting blood.
Also, just a heads-up, a JW parent would probably allow your second child to die rather than take a blood transfusion. The JW lifestyle comes at a cruel price.Perhaps most of this is a moot point. As far as I know, the man you love has already decided to return to the meetings and give you up. If he does come swinging back your way, I'd be sure to nail him down on his stand on accepting blood.
We are still talking, and acutally since the elders have found out about me, He is calling me more and texting me and online with more now. We have discussed the blood issue to extreme, and I am not wavering on this at all. He is not happy about it of course but I have told him not his daughter not his choice. She has already had blood platelets to keep her alive during a surgery she has last year. I don't fully understand what the issue is about the blood. I really am not out to change the way he believes. I do question him on lots of issues not to make him waiver in his belief but for my sake of trying to understand. I don't know why we just can't live our lives loving the persons we both fell in love with and answering to God (Jehovah) in our own ways, I guess I am too much of a romantic opinionated optimistic person which means i am sure in the end the heart will be broken. I read one time only those that give up are failures. I am not giving up on him however I know he might give up on me. IF that is the case I did not fail he did.
