Vicodin, the not so innocent addiction

by free2beme 27 Replies latest jw friends

  • wednesday
    wednesday

    oh Essie,

    I feel your pain, and I'm not just saying that to hear myself talk. the nasall immitrex was what did it fr me.

    I'm on lyrica(sp may be wrong)itis chemically simialar to neurontin. I'm using it for neuropathis pain. assed to it is lamictil.

    topamax is rough, those of us who have to take this shite say it will make you "dumb as a box of rocks" but on the up side you can lose weight. so it is a california drug-dumb but slim.(lol)

    oh well, got keep your sense of humor.

    check out crazymeds.org.if that is wrong, add com to the end and see if that works. great site.

    weds

  • free2beme
    free2beme

    I have actually found that a lot of people are uncomfortable about this subject. I think it is worth discussing though, if nothing else to show people that it is something that is an addiction. In case they were concerned for someone or themselves.

  • MsMcDucket
    MsMcDucket

    Dependence (tolerance) Versus Addiction

    http://www.musc.edu/catalyst/archive/2005/co9-2pain.html

    (This is just a portion of the document)

    Hennessy chairs the MUSC Pain Committee, which is responsible for policies that reach across the institution. “There is so much more to pain than people, including health care professionals, realize,” she said. “It can be a disease. One of the hardest things for people who suffer from chronic pain is the social stereotype that they are complainers or drug addicts because they need help in managing their pain. There are differences among dependence, tolerance, and addiction that often are not recognized, even by health care workers.”
    The difference Hennessy referred to is taught during the fundamental years of most types of health care study. Dependence means that a person’s physiology becomes so accustomed to a substance that he or she would experience withdrawal symptoms if the medication were stopped. Withdrawal (or abstinence syndrome) is not necessarily an indicator of addiction. Addiction occurs when a psychological dependence upon a substance facilitates the use of that substance for unintended purposes, and causes continued use despite the harm it causes. Tolerance describes another physiological phenomenon characterized by a decrease in the therapeutic effect of a substance given stable dosage levels, but doesn’t always indicate an addiction. Characteristics of addiction are not just characteristics of abuse of opiates but can also be manifested through other agents of abuse like food, exercise, sex, and alcohol.


    I have a husband who is in chronic pain and I'm a nurse, so this topic is right in there for me! Plus, I use clonazepam for a certain disorder, and Provigil for upper airway resistance syndrome (UARS).

  • MsMcDucket
    MsMcDucket

    and may I go on.... The part I highlighted is SO true. I am amazed at some nurse's stupidity! They can have a patient who is an inmate or a drug addict, and the automatically say this person is a drug addict! And then they don't want to give them their pain meds even after they've just come out "from under the knife". D*mn! That makes me mad!

    http://www.drcnet.org/gateway/pain.html

    The fate of pain patients in the "police state of medicine" is grim. Day after day of constant torment drives many to depression or even suicide. Many patients receive enough medicine to provide relief for four hours out of the day, and have to decide which 20 hours of the day they will spend in extreme pain. Frightened doctors sometimes "fire" patients, cutting them off from pain meds suddenly, thereby putting them at risk for shock or withdrawal. And those patients receiving adequate prescriptions live in fear that their doctors could be put out of business by the government or frightened into cutting them off. Former addicts as well as former prisoners are in the worst situation of all, being automatically suspect -- but pain patients from these backgrounds need and deserve proper treatment nonetheless.

  • MsMcDucket
    MsMcDucket

    Now I would say this story talks about addiction. (Lortab, Vicodin, Hydrocodone- same thing)

    http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,380008489,00.html

    White, middle class housewife — hooked on Lortab

    Mary is not the type of person you'd expect to see standing trial for felony drug possession. And she is definitely not the type you would suspect of being a hard-core addict.
    But for several years Mary was addicted to Lortab and several other painkiller medications. Before she was caught she was taking up to 50 pills a day. Sometimes she would take so many pills at once that they would become lodged in her throat and she'd force herself to throw up to clear her esophagus. She was so addicted, however, that she would pick the pills out of her vomit and swallow them again.

  • Fleur
    Fleur

    Wow. I had come back this morning really expecting to see some replies on this important thread! I'm amazed with all the threads on everything around here from oral sex to judicial committee discussions I guess there are still some social taboos even among us enlightened apostates!

    I wanted to come back to post again and say that my heart truly goes out to those in chronic pain. I know what you go through it because I have suffered chronic pain since childhood that has never been adequately treated. Hell, it took me 20 years just to get the doctors to take me seriously and look for a real problem (of which they have irrefutable proof now on in glorious detail). So if anyone is reading this and feeling guilty for treating your pain...again, please know that my posts were not intended to judge. I just don't want to see any of my JWD "family" go through what I have seen my real family go through. Keep in constant communication with your doctors. If you don't trust your current ones, get new ones! That is a lesson I learned the hard way recently though I can't go into detail on the forum. Listen to your gut. There are tons of doctors out there. It matters not how prestigious a hospital or staff is supposed to be, if you're uncomfortable, there's a reason. Many are happy to write a script and send you out the door rather than try to get to the bottom of the cause of your pain, which may be treatable! I swear they give out Vicadin for paper cuts these days.

    If you're stuck on these pills, just get help. Please, please, please. For yourself, your spouse if you have one, and especially for any kids you might have at home. You only get one chance to be a sober parent. You can't go back and get a do over. Remember that. I wish my family had.

    love to all

    essie

  • free2beme
    free2beme

    Its frightening to think you might be addicted to something.

  • MsMcDucket
    MsMcDucket
    Its frightening to think you might be addicted to something.

    Freetobeme, unfortunately, that's why a lot of people don't take their meds. There's a difference between needing a med and abusing it.

    People can understand why people take insulin, right, must have diabetes....but when it comes to pain meds, people are weird. They don't think that the person must have pain (for whatever reason/illness). They just think about addiction. It's sad.

    Fleur, most doctors don't write scripts for pain meds indiscrimanently. Your own story proves this.

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