JW cult stunts psychological & moral development

by rebel8 10 Replies latest jw experiences

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    In reading the many jw apologist trollish posts on this forum, it keeps reminding me of the various theories of moral/psychological development & has made me realize how much the jw cult stunts such growth. Many different scientists have come up with stage theories of psychological/moral development. Here are some that come to my mind when I’m reading the infamous posts:

    Piagetian Stages of Cognitive Development

    Approximate

    Stage

    Typical Developments

    Birth to age 2

    Sensorimotor

    Children develop the concept of object permanence and the ability to form mental representations.

    Age 2 to 7

    Preoperational

    Children's thought is egocentric; they lack the concept of conversation and the ability to decenter.

    Age 7 to 11

    Concrete Operations

    Children can decenter; they acquire the concept of conversion; but they cannot reason abstractly or test hypotheses systematically.

    Starts at age 11 or 12

    Formal Operations

    Children begin to reason abstractly.

    Generally, these theories say that a person could for whatever reason not accomplish the tasks of one stage, and it would stunt them for life until they do. Piaget’s preoperational stage above is one I’ve seen JWs get stuck on a lot; the egocentricity of the individual translates into the egocentricity of the group. For example—the teaching that JWs are the one & only true religion—special among the world’s billions of people—and demons are targeting them as individuals for whatever insignificant things they do in the course of their worship.

    Kohlberg Stages of Moral Development

    Approximate

    Stage

    Substages

    Birth to 9

    Preconventional

    1) Avoid punishment
    2) Gain Reward

    Age 9 to 20

    Conventional

    3) Gain Approval & Avoid Disapproval
    4) Duty & Guilt

    Age 20+ maybe never

    Postconventional

    5) Agreed upon rights
    6) Personal moral standards

    Then we have Kohlberg’s conventional stage. JWs are not allowed to develop past that stage; in order to do so, they’d have to develop their own moral standards they follow just because it feels right to them inside, not to escape punishment or disapproval. Getting someone to obey you out of fear or guilt is limiting their potential as a person.

    The lack of development increases the likelihood of having real struggles after leaving the cult.

    I’ve probably bored the pants off of you by now. lol

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Not bored here. What you've posted is important information.

  • Lokie2005
    Lokie2005

    In my humble opinion I would say that most JWs do not develop past the preconventional stage.... but then...maybe its just my personal experiences..

    Hmmm, Freud had some interesting theories too.

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    Welcome Lokie!

  • serendipity
    serendipity

    Hi Lokie and welcome to the forum!

  • lowden
    lowden

    Hello Rebel8

    Your post reminds me of a young man from the local cong i left. He's in his early 20's, works in a local pie/food shop (his mum is also an employee) earning peanuts. He was raised in the faith, pioneers, lives with his mum and to be frank.....doesn't stand a bloody chance of ever getting out of the org, he'll never make it! He's sooooo dependent. Really sad, but illustrates the point of your post.

    Peace

    Lowden

  • Forscher
    Forscher

    I kind of like Freud's stages for that one. The organization encourages the anal stage of developement as the ideal with its legalism. Many I knew were pretty much anal-retentive as a result.
    Forscher

  • Sunnygal41
    Sunnygal41
    I’ve probably bored the pants off of you by now. lol

    Absolutely not, I'm a closet psychologist myself!

  • cyrus
    cyrus

    Oh god my exs son now twenty went on holiday with us and didnt leave my wifes sise for two weeks accept when bedtime came around.also uptil our breakup she was still tucking him in at bedtime he was 18 .Now please tell me guys im i being unreasonable thinkinking that is wrong ?

    When i brought these matters up with her she said i was jealous.I said yes i was because i wanted to spend time with my wife .now both of them are like lambs to the slaughter believe everything the books say dont read anything other than jw books and believe the gb are infallible.I AM SO GLAD I GOT AWAY FROM THEM AND JWS.I always retained my sceptism concerning jw teachings particulary anything not backable by scripture .Never saw this love the like to talk about at all.

  • Carmel
    Carmel

    Are these more contemporary than Maslow's seven stages of moral devlopment?

    carmel

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