Israel / Palestine ??

AhHah

Carmel,

Since you are there, care to let us in on what's the deal? Is it primarlily a religious dispute? Please enlighten me. How is this scene likely to end?

Nothing is purely religious, or geopolitical, but it is the hardline conservative Jews that take literally the biblical reference to this being their land bequethed by God that are in my humble opinion, the cause of the problem. They have a guaranteed number of seats in the Kinnesset regardless of how small a percentage they are in the total polulation. Their power is linked to the diapora of Jews that finance their fanaticism.

Like most everything, the Palistinians have their radicals as well. The wild card here is mid east oil and Bill Clinton. I think his ego and American interest in oil will combine to do anything to get a peace accord. My guess? A significant concession by the US to both sides to seal a deal before Clinton ceases to become a lame duck and is a dead duck. 2001 will see a seminal agreement that will be the begining of the end of the religious state of Israel and eventually regional stability.

carmel who has no special insight, but fun postualting

AhHah

I sure hope you are right!

There seem to be few things that will perpetuate hostility more than believing that "God is on my side." How pathetic!

waiting

Hey Carmel,

carmel who has no special insight, but fun postualting

You sure get into a lot of things, don'tcha? Still manipulatio'ing over at your e-mail address?

curious waiting

Edited by - waiting on 20 October 2000 19:17:27

Zep

Read up on some Noam Chomsky for an alternate view on things. He's highly critical of the U.S. and has written some quite interesting analyses of the Middle east.

http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/index.cfm

Carmel

Zep,

I hope I didn't come across as a full blown supporter of US and/or UN position in the Israeli/Palistinian conflict. Chomsky is correct in much of his analysis especially his sensitivity to the rampant racism both in America and here in Israel. The Israeli's are even racist within their own kind. The Etheopian Jews here can hardly eek out an existance. Treated like garbage, made to live in compounds that in America are only reserved for the Hatian refugees.

Plenty of incivility to go around. However, I still contend the US and western powers are not about to let Israel screw up their oil supply by going too far with their dirty little tactics of settlements in areas that were supposed to be handed back to Palistine. Add to that Mr. Arrafat has the propensity to set up his family with illegal gains so that when he goes they are well healed financially.

So it goes, the disfunctionality of materialistic politics. I'm still betting on some kind of concession to Palistine and a bigger one to Israel by the West before long.

carmel.

Carmel

Fur I's you sight for sore eyes! How you been? Been drinking those vinegar martins lately? Jan never answered me! Spose I ticked her off?

carmel

waiting

To The Man With Many Names: (Carmel, etc.)

Fur I's

If I can remember all your names on the different forums you post on - you can do the same for me. Surely a man can get that straight?????

Spose I ticked her off?

I 'spose you tick off just about every female you know, Sweetpea.....

waiting

Zep

I hope I didn't come across as a full blown supporter of US and/or UN position in the Israeli/Palistinian conflict.

You didn't Carmel

AhHah, check this site out BTW. These guys are good:

www.stratfor.com

circare

Thanks Zep for directing us to the other interesting sites.

I have been thinking of you daily Carmel, with all the unrest going on, and hoping that you are in no danger. I am glad to read your posts each day.

There is so much I don't understand about the problems in the Middle East area. In reading the stratfor.com site it mentioned the threat internally for the Israelis from their Arab citizenry. Would anyone have the time to explain who the Arab Israelis are?

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