Wolf, sheep - or sheepdog?

by Nathan Natas 38 Replies latest jw friends

  • *lost*
    *lost*

    NN your most welcome.

    Jgnat - I did reference the point about the many different 'types and varieties of sheepdogs' and the gaurding species, Maremma's and the difference in the 'species' of Wolves, Coyotes are not Wolves, easy to kill.

    Rottwiellers originated as a gaurding and shepherding dog. They carrried the drovers purse about their necks, as in those days roaming bands of marauders were common

    Old English sheepdogs, also a gaurding and driving shepherding dog.

    German shepherd's, Alsations, same.

    Sorry can't copy and paste pictures.

    Maremma's have been purposely, selectively bred for their 'specific job' by man. it is in their blood, generation to generation, built up over many years.

    They are 'born in' to the flocks, and raised with the flocks, they are fed in troughs with the flock and they grown up with the flocks.

    I posted a thread on animals universal language, but nobody seems to have the want, or maybe knowledge to discuss such things.

    Huskies are not a shepherding breed and are an 'aggressive' breed, they are closer to the wolf bloodline. Huslies are not 'communal' dog's, 'pack' dog's.

  • *lost*
    *lost*

    NN - for you.

    Have you fought in any wars.

    Has your father fought in any wars.

    Has your grandfather fought in any wars.

    Do you have any first hand experience of war.

    Have you lived in an area that has suffered war.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    The huskies I mentioned most certainly hunted as a pack.

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    Huskies are not a shepherding breed and are an 'aggressive' breed, they are closer to the wolf bloodline.

    How are huskies "closer" to the wolf bloodline?

    I have a 90 lb barely a year old Rottie pup. She's the sweetest thing ever. She recently slept in a tent with me during a thunderstorm on a camping trip. If she were so inclined, she could kill me in about 10 seconds, yet I can easily reach into her mouth to take out something she shouldn't have.

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    *lost* asked,

    "NN - for you.

    Have you fought in any wars. No, I was raised a JW and had a ministerial draft deferment when I was 18. What wars have you fought in, *lost*, or did you have a IV-D deferment too?

    Has your father fought in any wars. Yes, my father served in Patton's Army in Europe. I also had an Uncle in the Navy, an Uncle in the AirForce, and an Uncle in the Marines who was wounded on Iwo Jiima. I have two cousins about my age who served in the military when they were called. One of those cousins retired from the FBI not long ago. Tell me about your family's military heritage, *lost*.

    Has your grandfather fought in any wars. Yes. my grandfather fought in WWI and futher back a family member was an officer in the Army of the Czar of Russia. You?

    Do you have any first hand experience of war. No. I regret my mother's fanatical religious devotion and I regret not having served. You?

    Have you lived in an area that has suffered war. No. Have you?

    THANKS FOR ASKING.

  • EdenOne
    EdenOne

    Thank you for an interesting reading, NN.

    In true Roger Water's style i would add PIGS to the animal constellation - those who are behind the wolves. Those who are never confronted by the sheepdogs, because they're too smart to ever get their hands dirty. They are the ones that are ultimately guilty for what conscious wolves, deranged wolves and wannabe wolves perpetrate upon sheep. Even sheepdogs are at the mercy of those pigs.

    Eden

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    That's a good observation, Eden. Thanks.

  • *lost*
    *lost*

    NN oooh touchy, touchy.

    You mustn't take things as a personal attack sweetie, not good for your blood pressure to get so angry.

    Thank you for taking the time to asnwer my questions, sorry it took a while to get back.

    Just all part of the

    ... getting to know you ...

    yes, I come from a 'Tribal' culture. I understand war, as does my family / kinsmen and the effects of.

    regards

  • *lost*
    *lost*

    EP - what's your point about your Rottie pup ?

    Is it just a statement of how much you love and admire the breed.

    They are truly superb dogs.

    One of my favourites.

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    *lost*, I see that your reply to my request that you answer your own questions is remarkably thin on details, but that is probably just because you have no more substantial detail to provide, and you have been requested to dial-down the amount of invective*, cursing and swearing in your posts, so you have nothing to say. I'm wondering if you had to extrapolate your origins to your Neandertal tribes of 115,000 years ago to form a base for your claim to come from a 'Tribal' culture. What was it like to hunt prehistoric mammoths? Can you knap flint?

    *I'll give you some time to get your dictionary, if you own one.

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