FOLLOW UP CONVERSTION C.O. ELDER - THE $HIT WILL HIT THE FAN

by What-A-Coincidence 19 Replies latest jw friends

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  What-A-Coincidence

  Dear JWD staff and comp.,
  

  Thank you so much for your replies. They will be helpful.
  

  This elder who initiated the talk with the C.O. was like a big brother to me since he brought me into the org. and encouraged me to go to Bethel. As you can see, it's an edgy situation. But it's my life (insert Bon Jovi song). This elder was told by the other elders to be careful with me. Well, guess who is going to the P.O? Guess who is writing a letter of (Stand Back or I will bust a cap in your ass)? My familiy has a long line of mental insanity which they are aware of. Now they will receive their just reward in full....bastards.
  

  I am usually a mild mannered person. But the hell with it. THE APPOINTED TIME IS NOW, THE CONGREGATIONS BOE SHALL KNOW WHO I AM AND THE FORCES BEHIND IT.
  

  THE CONGREGATION IS ALREADY "DISTURBED" - I JUST HOPE THEY COME TO ME AND ASK QUESTIONS. HEY WACK? SUP DAWG? YOU WERE SUPPOSE TO BE THE PILLAR IN THIS CONGREGATION, YOU KNOW THE P.O. N SHIT SINCE YOU PIMPED WID CHRISTS PRINCESS N SHIT. ME - YOU LIKE COVERUPS?
  

  THE SHIT IS GOING TO HIT THE FAN WHEN I TELL THE PO HOW THE CO AND THE ELDER MADE ME FEEL. WITH REGARDS TO MY PERSONAL BUSINESS ABOUT CHOKING THE CHICKEN/ROLLING THE LOG/CHANGING THE OIL/SHAKE HANDS WITH THE DEVIL/JACKING THE BEANSTALK AND MY PORN THAT IS MY BUSINESS. THE C.O. REMINDED ME OF JOBS FALSE COMFORTERS. DAMN BASTARD. WHY SURELY YOU MUST BE SHOOTING YOUR WAD SINCE MANY DO THAT WHEN THEY FEEL THEY HAVE SINNED AND HAVE GIVEN UP. STROKE THIS!!!
  

  THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE TALK WITH THE CO WAS WHEN HE SAID THAT HE NEVER MET A WITNESS WHO WAS NOT HAPPY BY LEAVING HIS PRIVILGES. AHHH HELL NO! F THAT BASTARD! IN THE LETTER I AM STATING THAT I HAD NEVER FELT BETTER SPIRITUALLY AND PHYSICALLY AFTER LEAVING MY SO CALLED PRIVILEGES.
  
  THE NATIONS SHALL NOW THAT I AM WAC (YEAH, I KNOW I NEED TO CHANGE MY NAME).
  

  I LIKED MANY OF YOUR IDEAS
  

  - JUST TELL EM YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT
  - PULL OUT KORAN
  - ETC. ETC.
  

  
  
  - POSTING A LETTER TO BE REVIEWED BY JWD IN THE FOLLOWING DAYS.
  

  
  
  

  kNIGHT tEMPLAR
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  candidlynuts

  EEEK ! breathe brother wac!!
  make sure you make your reasons known very clearly, otherwise, they'll gossip and say you left cuz you didnt like being counseled on your "masterbation problem"

  seriously, make sure your calm before you write any letters that will burn bridges.

  hugs
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  blondie

  Are you okay, WAC?

  Blondie
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  serendipity

  
  Hi WAC,

  The thought of revenge may be sweet, but what are the consequences? What do you want to accomplish with the revelations? And do you expect to win against the CO? Please tread carefully.
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  What-A-Coincidence

  DON'T WORRY GUYS - I AM ACTUALLY VENTNG FOR THE MOST PART. I NEED TO STAY IN FOR FAMILIES SAKE. IF IT WASN'T FOR THEM I WOULD NOT EVEN GO TO MEETINGS AT ALL!

  I WAS AN ELDER AND KNOW EXACTLY HOW THEY OPERATE AND THE CONSEQUENCES (AND ALSO WITH HELP OF YOU GUYS)

  . I STARTED WRITING A LETTER AND LETTING MY ANGER AND FRUSTRATION OUT BUT I KNOW IT WILL HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE G RATED VERSION OR MAYBE JUST TELL THEM "I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT".

  I WISH THERE WERE SOME MANUAL ON HOW TO FADE GRACEFULLY WHEN YOUR FAMILY IS LOCKED IN.

  WRITING TO YOU FROM HOTEL CALIFORNIA -
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  AudeSapere

  Guess that means you feel like 'You've checked out - but you can never leave.'

  I WISH THERE WERE SOME MANUAL ON HOW TO FADE GRACEFULLY WHEN YOUR FAMILY IS LOCKED IN.

  There have been threads on this. Claiming 'Depression' seemed to be the most popular when family is still in and moving is not an option.

  In the meantime, maybe write the 'hard-core' letter just to vent. (Post it here if you want to). Then tame it down - maybe- before turning anything in.

  I wish you well.

  -Aude.
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  jwfacts

  Good on you WAC.

  It is good to vent and let it all out. Then re-read, re-write a couple of times. You know how they think, but they can never understand how you think whilst they are WTS clones, so you have the upper hand.

  Fading is hard, there is no easy way, as cults do not like fringe dwellers influencing the influenced. Just try to let them know that you are not leaving for some petty desire, but that you have studied extensively and know the WTS for the dishonest hypocritical organisation that it is.
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  free2beme

  You been drinking before you wrote this?
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  AudeSapere

  Here's a short, old old thread. Might give some ideas:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/84455/1.ashx

  In that thread is a link to one of Lady Lee's 'Best Of's' - 'Letters to friends and family'.

  I hope it helps a little.

  -Aude.
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  What-A-Coincidence

  Thanks Audesapere

  this posts seems balanced. I guess I am going through an emotional turmoil. These usually don't last which is good. It's that these past 2 days have been rough so that is why all these drunken posts

  willyloman	Re: wanting to leave jw org
  Post 1218 of 2295 since 19-Jun-03	I'll add my two cents here, as a former longtime elder who was a real student of the WTS' rules of order: Don't DA yourself and don't write any letters to them, ever. Instead, start missing meetings and FS and find some "cover" for your frequent absences. Some sort of poor health works, but "depression" is even better (be sure to say you're being treated by a doctor and also add that you prefer not to talk about it in any detail). Depression scares the hell out of most elders, because they have absolutely no idea what to do about it. Oh, sure, the WTS has printed lots of articles, but when you read them it's clearly going to be a lot of work to babysit, oops, I mean "console" a depressed soul. And this kind of social work is something the vast majority of elders work hard to avoid. The rank and file will keep their distance, too. The most important advice to faders would be to remember that the REASON for fading is to buy yourself time to develop a new circle of friends and other interests or hobbies so that when you are no longer part of the JW congregation, you have something to do with your time... and someone to do it with. This is critical. Because you can never count on a long-term fade working the way you plan. Some on this forum have faded and not been bothered by any elders for many years, but they are still looking over their shoulder. It's best to assume you will one day be hunted down and DF'd because you spoke out to someone who is still a JW or they saw your Christmas tree through the window, or something. Your goal in fading is to get to the point where you just don't care what they do, and that will come in time. By then it won't matter. Many of the posts I read here are from people who feel they want to "get even" with the WTS and that they can do that by firing off an F You letter that will really nail them and their screwy doctrines to the wall. No chance. They read the first few lines to establish where your head's at, then they scan the rest of the letter until they get to the part that says "take my name off the list" or some other indication that you have DA'd yourself, and then they read the announcement to the congo. The letter gets locked in a file drawer, inside a sealed envelope, where it is never seen again. No one will ever read it. Having said that, and not wanting to be dogmatic, there are some cases where a DA letter is the best way to get the elders off your back. In some cases, it's too late to fade and you're being hounded by the elders who "just want to come and visit and offer some encouragement" when you know very well they are aware you have a boy/girl friend or are attending the church down the street.