by Ranchette 31 Replies latest jw friends
Ballistic:
Alright I admit it, I'm an apostate. No field service time for you. In fact, isn't that a judicial committee knocking at the door?
And I used to watch Rainbow as a nipper, too. In fact, I blame most of my personality disorders on it. Zebedee, in particular, I think.
Bunch of drugged out lunatics, the lot of them.
Gopher:
Pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Get real matey!
Expatbrit
Guys, what do you call a river that does not flow. A lake, maybe we are so imperfect that the bible mistranslated the word into river when it should have been a lake. Ah hell, what do I know?
"Hand me that whiskey, I need to consult the spirit."-J.F. Rutherford
Ballistic...was that the one with zippy? And the pink hippo and a huge bear or something. That show scaaareddddd me!
To jay, I've been wanting to take up water skiing. but I can't find a lake on a slope!
p.s. are you really trying to say there werent rivers in the Garden of Eden? or am I taking people too seriously again? Even the bible stories book has a picture of a river and certain fish rely on their movements from sea to upstream to spawn for survival???
To bgurl, yes that's right zippy, geoffrey, bungle, etc. Great stuff.
No, but seriously, this conversation has got me doing some research, (even if I was being wound up to start with) and there are some serious problems with the no rain - rivers and no rainbows scenario.
OH NO!!
I'm mixing my Rainbow up with my Magic Roundabout! Help me! For God's sake, somebody help me!
Expatbrit
Howdy y'all,
Oh, back to JW-style reasoning. How WE explained the presence of rainbows through all history, even in the Garden of Eden - up till the time of Noah actually observing a rainbow was thus:
The earth was surrounded by clouds (like a "swaddling band", remember?) and the sun didn't shine strongly. And there was a misting (I would assume a lot for rivers to flow) probably every night. (I would also assume the humidity would have been mightily high every night, eh?)
Well, between the misting going back to the clouds, coming down to the rivers, etc., and there not being direct sunshine (as we know it now)......rainbows would not be observed.
However, AFTER the Global Flood, the clouds which had surrounded the earth like a swaddling band were gone - and the sunshine could shiiiiiiiiiiiiine on through........and thus, Noah could - for the first time - *see* a rainbow.
There! Now if you can buy all the other arguments surrounding the rainbow, you can buy my Rainbow Reasoning, can'tcha?
waiting
just to clarify: rivers existed due to a miraculous mist which came up every night and not due to rainfall raising the water table as it does now? In other words instead of water vapour rising up into the atmosphere and condensing to fall as rain, it just kind of mysteriously rose a few inches and condensed there?
So you've got water vapour evapourating and condensing in the same bit of space, just above the ground at the same time?
To Ballistic,
I thought maybe I would help out the Society with some new light. I figured they could say that the rivers mentioned in the garden of eden could now be small oval shaped lakes. The water could just come up from underground and lay in the hole. However, the Society is on it's own when they explain how the water did not evaporate.
"Hand me that whiskey, I need to consult the spirit."-J.F. Rutherford
Waiting
For rivers to even exist, there needs to be an enormous and continuous supply of water running into them, this is logical Yes?
Water vapour, even in the most condensed form, is still just water vapour.
At this high density, even if it could somehow make rivers, (which is unlikely for you need mountains, and according to some, this did not happen till after the flood, Hmmm!)
life would be impossible for humans.!!!
What about The Garden of Eden ? and then life outside it??. I can picture it now, Adam and Eve wearing rubber macs while planting rice, for they would be able to grow nothing else.
Hey, without no direct sunlight, there would not be any vegatation anyway, let alone rainbows!!
There are none so blind that do not wish to see.
Radar
Before you say water vapour in the most condensed form is water!.
I meant before it becomes water/rain. LOL
Radar
