Illegal immigrants and the increase in JW #’s in the USA

by cyberguy 22 Replies latest jw friends

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  wednesday

  he he he

  reminds me of a seinfeld eposide,

  guy cleans seinfelds apartment

  he steals a statue

  seinfeld knows he did it, b/c he's the only one who has been in apartment

  they try talking to him and he denies it

  karmmer goes over in an old detective type suit and badge with a hat and briefcase

  shoves him up against the wall and does a tough cop thing on him

  scares the guy to death

  and while he is huddled in corner

  Krammer goes and gets the statue

  Seinfeld asks how he got the statue back and he says

  well, lets just say, i didn't take him to Peoples court

  he he he
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  Soledad

  I suspect this is true of most of the JW Spanish Congregations in the USA.

  Suspicion confirmed. I attendend a Spanish Congregation all the years I was a JW. But for a small minority of adults and children, many were illegal immigrants. Our congregation split 3 times over a period of 15 years or so, the reason being not because of an increase in new members but in an increase of people being smuggled in across the border. Now, the congregation my mother attends has seen a decline in Hispanic members so the majority of people attending are from places like Mozambique and Brasil.

  Ok I have a real problem with this:

  run a check on your school district and you will find out how many hispanic children ;are attending. ;That will give you a clue ; to ; how many illegals are potentially there ; This area is boged down ; with hispanic children,

  Are you effin serious? Racial profiling?? I have a Hispanic last name------heaven forbid I should live in your school district! Do you have a problem with Hispanics??
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  parakeet

  I've read many posts about how JWs appeal to the poor and poorly educated by conferring on them a status they could not obtain any other way. The Bible says the poor will always be with us -- I'll bet the WTS is really counting on that!
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  MinisterAmos

  Sorry, but it is a flawed assumption.

  Illegals are not permitted "privileges" in the congos and I dont THINK (meaning I'm not sure) that they even qualify to publish. They are after all here illegally and mother Bethel is very picky about finger pointing when the R&F is concerned.
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  Soledad

  Amos you are so dead wrong about that. I am speaking from personal experience: 20+ years attending, not one, but several Spanish Congregations.
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  MinisterAmos

  Must be local choice because I have had a Mexican brother over to dinner/pool parties etc who is here illegally and is not permitted privs even though he was an Anciano in Mexico.

  Also just confirmed with the POs son (an Elder) that illegals are permitted to comment but cannot publish. The thing that might create confusion is that they will not INQUIRE about a persons immigration status but will act when it becomes known to the congo or the Elders. For example the questions to become an unbaptized publisher ask aboutcrimes in general. A "yes" would disqualify them.

  Just reporting, not making the news here.
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  Soledad

  That's news to me. Here a family can literally just arrive from where ever they're from, everyone knows they are not legal immigrants, yet continue to hold here whatever status or position they had in their country of origin. An anciano in Colombia is still an anciano when he arrives in New York.
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  blondie

  We know that what the WTS puts in writing (for the authorities) in the publications is not what is actually practiced. I'm not surprised.

  Blondie
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  wednesday

  
  racial profiliing? My dgh in law is moving and they are looking for the best schools in the area, schools that are 'recognized" or better. it is a perfectly fair way to choose your child's school. The data base gives the % of racial groups, how many people in average 3 rd grade class, % of disavantaged children attending, whether the students can pass the standardized tests required by the state and a LOTS more details. it is perfectly legal. It helps us and many others here b/c , we do not want our children in a school where they will not recievie the best education. If the primary grade teachers are so occupied teaching english to the students, then my children will be bored, they already know english. My children need to be in a school that is got a good mix of all ethnic groups so the classroom teachers are not slowed down When people buy a house, this is data people look for , . they want to buy a house in the area where the best schools are at. The best schools are racially diverse but not so much that my child, who speaks English, is held back waitng for a large number of those who do not speak english. I rather think the schools have a better system of determining if you speak or wrtie english other than the last name. .

  No I do not hate mexicans. I live in texas, are you kidding, i grew up with them went to school with them, etc. I just want my children/grandchildren ot receive the best educaton and not be held back . Surely you must want that for your kids.

  This can be a big problem in some areas here, as when my gkids were in pre-K, almost everyone else there was learning how to speak english. it was very boring for my gkids, and we will see to it it does not happen again. When we checked out the school, we saw the reason for the problem.

  You only get on chance at school, so we have to get the best shot me can at it.

  This is very popular with people buying houses, b/c part of the reason you buy(or should be ) in a certain area is how the school is rated. I want my child to get a good education and not all schools can provide that.

  go to greatschools.com check it out. you can check your schools i your own neighborhood.
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  Highlander

  I currently live in SoCal and am not familiar with the procedures here, but when I lived in the midwest I had the understanding that it was a

  'don't ask, don't tell' policy in regards to the immigration status of j-dubs in the congregations, therefore if you didn't admit you were illegal you could be appointed,

  however if it was officially known you were illegal than you weren't allowed any priviledges such as being an ms or elder.