Whoa Gumby , thanks for the flashbacks . I remember hearing this in my days and really believed it as a good ( stupid) follower would. I remember i used to wonder how people that had transfusions could keep their own identities ,or if they became another personality or personalities . This crap really did freak me out till my sister had to have a transfusion ,and i found she was the same her as she was before . That was my proof that the jws are so full of BS that they can't even get it straight.
Your personality is IN your Blood!
by gumby 34 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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gumby
kls.....nice to hear that story!
I suppose if a person ate all the wrong food, never exercised, and lived in an unhealthy enviroment( unseen mold everywhere).....it would change your personality quite a bit.
Perhaps depression would set in.... and just plain not feeling well constantly would change your mood. Bad blood might do the same, but as far as making someone a criminal, entirely changing your personality, and making a persons whole identity change was quite a stretch for the society to make.
Gumby
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BlessedStar
There may well be health related reasons for not eating meat that has not been bled, but if there are, they are not stated.
Eating meat that had not been bled is much different than giving or receiving blood transfusions. When our blood might help someone, should we give it or not give it? The Bible does not specifically address the problem of transfusions, but it does give glipses into God's heart that show us what He wants us to do in these cases.
Christ helped us understand a very important principle: the law was given to help people, to get people to do good and not evil. The law encourages us to save lives, but sometimes withholding blood actually amounts to killing.
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Terry
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The Watchtower Society (WTS) has not been content with giving "Biblical" reasons for prohibiting blood transfusions. Articles and publications dealing with this question are usually devote more pages to emphasizing the dangers of blood transfusions and the advantages of some alternatives to blood transfusions. Playing to the Witness community, the Watchtower and Awake! magazines are filled with horror stories and snide remarks emphasizing the danger. Most Jehovah's Witnesses (JWs), when dealing with the issue, will focus on the risks of contracting Hepatitis and AIDS and the horrible dangers of blood transfusions. Despite having no expertise in medicine they will also insist that there are always alternatives to blood transfusions. This is because of the heavy propaganda from the WTS:
"It is not surprising that transfusing such a complex substance might, as one surgeon put it, "confuse" the body's immune system. In fact, a blood transfusion can suppress immunity for as long as a year. To some, this is the most threatening aspect of transfusions.
Then there are infectious diseases as well. They have exotic names, such as Chagas’ disease and cytomegalovirus. Effects range from fever and chills to death. Dr. Joseph Feldschuh of the Cornell University of Medicine says that there is 1 chance in 10 of getting some sort of infection from a transfusion. It is like playing Russian roulette with a ten-chamber revolver. Recent studies have also shown that blood transfusions during cancer surgery may actually increase the risk of recurrence of the cancer.
No wonder a television news program claimed that a blood transfusion could be the biggest obstacle to recovery from surgery. Hepatitis infects hundreds of thousands and kills many more transfusion recipients than AIDS does, but it gets little of the publicity. No one knows the extent of the deaths, but economist Ross Eckert says that it may be the equivalent of a DC-10 airliner full of people crashing every month." (Awake! Oct. 22, 1990, p. 9)
Those who have read previous sections of the site will be aware of the fact that the WTS has used similar – and stronger – arguments against vaccination programs and organ transplants. While there are negative side effects of vaccinations, informed persons agree that on the whole they have been of tremendous benefit to humanity. Even though some individuals have died, vaccinations have saved millions of lives. One would be hard pressed to find anyone – JW or not – who would not agree that vaccinations have been a good thing.
We will later return to these exaggerated horror stories about blood transfusions. For now let it suffice to point to the similarities between the threats used against those who accepted vaccinations, organ transplants and now blood transfusions.
The WTS has not been content just to exaggerate real threats. In line with claims about alleged personality changes as a result of vaccinations and organ transplants, it appealed to the same sort of quack scientists:
"Criminals in jail are given the opportunity to donate their blood. For example, the New York Times of April 6, 1961, reported: "Inmates of Sing Sing Prison at Ossining will give blood to the Red Cross today." A commendable act? Perhaps not as beneficial to their fellow men as the community is led to believe. . . . in his book Who Is Your Doctor and Why? Doctor Alonzo Jay Shadman says: "The blood in any person is in reality the person himself. It contains all the peculiarities of the individual from whence it comes. This includes hereditary taints, disease susceptibilities, poisons due to personal living, eating and drinking habits. . . . The poisons that produce the impulse to commit suicide, murder, or steal are in the blood." And Dr. Américo Valério, Brazilian doctor and surgeon for over forty years, agrees. "Moral insanity, sexual perversions, repression, inferiority complexes, petty crimes – these often follow in the wake of blood transfusion," he says. Yet it is acknowledged in the public press that organizations whose blood supply is considered reliable obtain blood for transfusion from criminals who are known to have such characteristics." (The Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1961, p. 564)
So according to the WTS a blood transfusion can give you a criminal's personality! We ask what is the more astonishing: that the WTS actually taught this nonsense or that it was able to dig up "experts" who agreed with them? We know for certain that this quackery was believed by many JWs well into the 1980s, and probably still is.It is interesting to note how much in recent years the WTS has changed its general ideas about science, and medical science in particular. While it once considered the medical profession to be demon-possessed, it is now more likely to print articles in Awake! magazine about the wonders of surgery and medicine, and it often warns against certain alternative treatments that are not backed by scientific evidence.
Considering that the JW community has historically been hostile to medical professionals (and this hostility has of course been fed by the controversies related to the blood prohibition) and positive to "alternative medicine," (some of those "experts" quoted to support the anti-vaccination stand were homeopaths) it will be interesting to see how quickly this reversal will change the attitude of the rank and file.
Despite the fact that the WTS has gone to great lengths to minimize damage to the JW community by allowing more and more blood components to be used in treatment, the blood prohibition is a major cause of the strained relationship between Jehovah’s Witnesses and medical professionals, and is a major reason we are considered a dangerous religious group by some governments and social scientists.
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Rabbit
Gumby
Here's another quote from a doctor they used in the same magazine,
And Dr. Américo Valério, Brazilian doctor and surgeon for over forty years, agrees. "Moral insanity, sexual perversions, repression, inferiority complexes, petty crimes-these often follow in the wake of blood transfusion," he says.
*sheesh* I thought repression came from cults with the initials...WTB&TS.
Loosie, I liked your suggestion of how to cure all the prisoners...brilliant ! That was funny ! The Truth ™ was the Truth ™ all the time...
Gumby, I'm wondering...if someone has say, green skin and libido & dinger issues...maybe...they could benefit from some albino blood (to lighten your skin) latino blood (to give
youthem a good tan AND the famous hot libido) blood from a black guy (to help the dinger issue) Hemopure -- from cattle (to give you big balls and/or udders to play with) and lastly... rabbit blood (so you can 'do it' 5 times a day)Ahhh, that conduit from the Lawd Gawd to the Governing Body's ears...is truly a beautiful thing, eh ?
Rabbit(Proud to be a Graduate of the University of Awake ™, Brooklyn, NY)
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Mary
Gumbdinger asked: I'm wonderin if I had a dinger transplant if it might boost my limbido just a tad?
Now don't even go there Gumlibido........you're supposed ta be tryin to deaden your body members, not tryin' ta get all hot and bothered. I dunno....you're sounding mighty spiritually weak these dayz Brother Gumby.......maybe you need to go out in Service more. That'll get your mind off things below.
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gumby
Yeah Mary....I've been gettin kinda like a damn horndog sittin around doin little and need to do some work and rid myself of this dirty and nasty feelins I been havin. Shame on me!
* hits self with old brown service shoe in the closet and prays to jehovah for self control*
Rabbit....good idea, but where am I gonna find donors such as the type you speak of. Have you got a kinda big....a....you know.....thingy? Maybe you could give me a pint or two of your big dinger infested blood cuz I'll take anything I can get?
Terry...excellent. I'd forgotten about the info on the AJWRB site. Thanks
Gumby
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JH
The persons whom I donated blood to, will all develop a liking for Coke and Poutine
Then will also love their new sex life mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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gumby
The persons whom I donated blood to, will all develop a liking for Coke and Poutine
Then will also love their new sex life mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
JH...doncha mean....poon-tang? About your donated blood and people getting a sex drive from it.....I done told ya 4 times now that "masterbaters ain't gonna inherit the kingdom" Gumselfabuser
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RubaDub
Folks, just remember that the "real you" was your physical heart.
When heart transplants became common, New Light quickly determined that it is not the physical heart but the figurative heart.
Rub a Dub