Saturday District Convention notes: Don't research JW's online!!!!

by truthseeker 94 Replies latest jw friends

  • mariposa
    mariposa

    Truthseeker - once again wow wow wow - thanks for sitting through this

    I am in amazement at how I was so caught up in this - if I was to go back now, I'd probably vomit up all my hastily eaten Mickey D's breakfast right over the person sitting in front of me!!!!!!

  • unclebruce
    unclebruce

    Thankyou Truthseeker

    Internet use by active JW's has been severely restricted by it's being branded as a culturally unacceptable medium for those 'strong in the truth'. One of the main targets of the WBTS seems to be those casual users who surf the net at work. Once connecte to the net, many JWs must find the temptation to search JW related words irresistable. I have JW relatives who are quite happy to admit having a computer but are quick to add "but I'm not connected to the internet".

    I'd be interested to hear feedback about the anti-net policy as expressed at congregational level. unclebruce

  • fullofdoubtnow
    fullofdoubtnow

    Thanks for that truthseeker, I am glad I won't have to sit through that crap this year.

    I hope a lot of dubs disobey the advice on research.

  • Lady Liberty
    Lady Liberty

    Ughhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I can hardly bare to read this stuff! Once you know what their real motive is, it is unbelievable to think we used to take it all in! Little cult zombies!! I am sorry you have to sit there!! I wonder how many are sitting there with the same feelings as you!!?? Thanks for the update!

    Sincerely,

    Lady Liberty

  • katiekitten
    katiekitten

    2:55 Forsee the Calamity And Conceal Yourself

    A whole 20 minutes on the dangers of pornography, alcoholism, materialism and flirting

    Damn. My favouurite pastimes. What'm I supposed to do now?

    Answers on a postcard please...

  • LDH
    LDH
    SIDE NOTE: The mention of searching for JW news articles on the Internet AND the mention of the brother finding NEGATIVE TALK ABOUT THE GOVERNING BODY is the FIRST example I have ever heard given of what a witness could find on the Internet about JW's and not just the usual "half-truths and apostate lies" mentioned.

    It seems there is some desperation there - how many witnesses must have found out negative things concerning the Governing Body?

    bored person in audience perks up at mention of Internet, and all of a sudden starts wondering *WHAT* negative things are being said?

    Is it so easy to "google" JW and see that there is criticism?

    ALSO I find it most interesting that they did not give an example of a JW Googling a bible subject and finding negative comments, but rather "Hurricane Katrina" as a focal point!!!!!

  • atypical
    atypical

    Thank you for your heroic effort TruthSeeker!

    And thank you, Watchtower for the great idea!

  • eyeslice
    eyeslice

    When I was 'in' I often used the illustration "all the darkness in the universe cannot overcome the light of a single candle". Seems when it comes to the internet, the light of the truth does not shine bright enough.
    Eyeslice

  • blondie
    blondie

    Thanks, truthseeker. A lot of BS to sit through.

    I wonder how many JWs will run out and see if they can find that negative article on the GB...to refute it of course.

    There were several articles about 12 years ago about "questionable" health treatments that bordered on spiritism. I heard of several JWs who went to a JW practitioner who held their hands above the sick person's body and felt their "energy" to be able to tell where the sick part was. Another used magnets; then there is iridiology where the practitioner has you fill out a detailed form on your family's health history and then magically tells you what your health problems are....

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    w94 12/15 pp. 20-21 A Health Test for You? ***

    But what of the muscle testing described in the letter at the start of this article? This sort of "kinesiology" has been used in an attempt to find out whether certain foods, herbs, or vitamins might help or harm a person. As often practiced, the individual holds out his arm, and a practitioner presses down to test muscle strength. Next the subject puts a nutrient or other substance in his mouth, on his abdomen, or in his hand. Then the arm muscles are retested. It is claimed that if he needs that nutrient, his arm will test stronger; if it is bad for him, the muscles will be weaker.

    Some who have tried this believe it works and that the effect is based on forces within the body. They reason that there are many things that modern science cannot explain but that occur or can be observed. Thus, they claim that there might be lines of energy or interaction between forces and substances, even if physicians have not yet discovered or accepted these.

    On the other hand, the book Applied Kinesiology states: "Sometimes [books] teach that chemical substances, such as nutrition, are evaluated by holding the substance in the hand and testing the muscle. There is no evidence that suggests any reliability in this type of testing. . . . A philosophic attitude can be so strong that operator prejudice interferes with obtaining accurate information in the testing process." "An examiner who is experienced in manual muscle testing can easily make a subject’s muscle appear weak or strong at his discretion by simply changing the . . . test very slightly."

    However, some muscle testing goes beyond this. Consider what is termed "surrogate testing." This might be practiced in the case of an old person or a baby too weak to be tested. While a surrogate touches the baby, the practitioner tests the surrogate’s arm. This has even been applied to pets; the surrogate’s arm is tested while he is resting a hand on the collie, German shepherd, or other sick pet.

    It is not for us to judge such actions, but you might ask, ‘Are bodily forces behind these effects?’ Scientists have proved the existence of cosmic rays, microwaves, and various types of electromagnetic radiation. Yet, do all creatures, even infants and house pets, have within them forces that can flow out and produce a testable effect on a second person? The Babylonians thought that forces could flow out to and affect a sheep. You might ask yourself, ‘Do I believe that something similar can happen with humans or animals today? Or might the effects have another explanation?’

    Some healers claim to measure a person’s "forces" with such devices as metal spirals or pendulums. These supposedly move as the healer’s "energy field" interacts with that of the patient. One practitioner and writer in this field, who had once been a research scientist, sometimes diagnoses with the use of a pendulum. She also asserts that she can visualize "the human energy field" or colored aura said to surround individuals. She claims to use "internal vision" to look into a body to see tumors, blood cells, or microbes, and to view the past.

    Some muscle testing may be innocent, performed with no harm to patient or practitioner. Clearly, though, some may have uncanny or supernatural aspects, such as internal vision, mysterious auras, and the use of a pendulum. Christians must not practice uncanny powers. They should not even experiment with such, for they are not curious about the deep things of Satan. (Revelation 2:24) Rather, there is good reason to exercise caution about anything that might seem related to the practice of spiritism, which God’s Word condemns.—Galatians 5:19-21.

  • Anitar
    Anitar

    Truthseeker, you are fantastic. It looks like the Borg are using a thinly disguised, slightly new method of arguing a very, very old arguement. Time to rotate our shield modulations, HE HE HE.

    This whole convention reeks of fear and desperation. The part about the college bashing is classic bait and

    switch. They lecture and shove your opinions down your throat and finish off by saying "don't you agree how

    wonderful this is?" Granted, college can be a bad infulence with drugs and partying, but it all depends on

    the individual. College is just like everything else in life. You get out of it what you put into it. Sure

    it's stressful and at times very competitive. But the rewards are far greater than the risks. That's what's

    so confusing to young JWs. Today, all we hear about is go to college. I think young people can see the

    difference once they begin to research it themselves. They can see through the Watchtower crap because the

    most inportant thing you'll get out of your education is the ability to see through the crap, so that NO

    ONE WILL THINK FOR YOU.

    I'm not just saying this. I am a college sophmore myself, and I can assure you, all my time is spent

    either in class, the library, or at work. It is insulting to hear the WT dismiss higher education in one

    biased, ill-educated sentence. Ironically, all free time I have is spent researching sites like this one

    to get my mother out of the sick Watchtower.

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