How can they explain THIS!!!!!???!!!

by Lady Liberty 10 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  Lady Liberty

  Hello everyone!!

  Check out Jeremiah 52:30 in the New World Translation, it says:

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  In the eighteenth year of Neb·u·chad·rez´zar, from Jerusalem there were eight hundred and thirty-two souls.

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  In the twenty-third year of Neb·u·chad·rez´zar, Neb·u´zar·ad´an the chief of the bodyguard took Jews into exile, seven hundred and forty-five souls.

  All the souls were four thousand and six hundred.

  What this shows is the Societys teaching that Jerusalem was desolate, is not supported by scripture. It was NOT literal. It was in Nebuchadnezzars 18th reignal year that he burned down Jerusalem. According to the Society, he took everyone then and there, and it was totally desolate! How then is Nebuchadnezzar still taking people a total of 4,600 to be exact, from a place that is supposed to be uninhabited??? I was just shocked.. this scripture just finally sunk in when my Mom was hsaring it with me today!! You don't even have to get into the whole date part, to show a JW that the whole "desolate for 70 years" had to have meant something else, like say, 70 years of SERVITUDE!

  Anyhow, Just thought I'd share what was shared with me!!

  Sincerely,

  Lady Liberty
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  A Paduan

  When the pressure of truth surrounding the 607 date business, and 1914, causes enough of a wave of embarrasment for the wtbts, there'll be an unhighlighted introduction of 'new light' about 1914 not be a literal or exact time, but rather an ethereal or symbolic time.

  And the congregation will go, "hmmmmmm, yessss - praise the truth" - sending a shiver down the spine of onlookers, and other 'thinking ones'.
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  confusedjw

  Hmmm. That could be interesting. I'll have to look up that scripture on the CD.
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  Lady Liberty

  When the pressure of truth surrounding the 607 date business, and 1914, causes enough of a wave of embarrasment for the wtbts, there'll be an unhighlighted introduction of 'new light' about 1914 not be a literal or exact time, but rather an ethereal or symbolic time.

  And the congregation will go, "hmmmmmm, yessss - praise the truth" - sending a shiver down the spine of onlookers, and other 'thinking ones'.

  Dear A Paduan,

  I agree!! I think in time they are going to have to change something big!!

  L.L.
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  Alwayshere

  LADY LIBERTY, THANKS FOR THAT INFORMATION. HAD NOT THOUGHT OF THAT. WATCHTOWER SOCIETY ALSO SAYS NEBUCHADNEZZAR BEGIN RULING IN 624 SO IF 624 WAS HIS FIRST YEAR THEN 18 YEARS LATER 606 WOULD BE HIS 19th YEAR AND 2KINGS :25 VERSE 8-9 SAYS IT WAS NEBUCHADNEZZAR'S 19th YEAR WHEN JERUSALEM WAS DESOLATED AND THAT 19th YEAR WOULD BE 606 NOT 607.BUT THEY CAN'T GET THEIR 1914 WITH 606 AND THAT ORGANIZATION IS BUILT ON THE 1914 DOCTRINE AND THEY WILL NEVER GIVE IT UP. THEY EVEN TEACH 'THE TREE' IN NEBUCHADNEZZAR'S DREAM AT DANIEL CHAPTER 4 REPRESENTS GOD'S KINGDOM AND SEVEN TIMES WOULD PASS OVER GOD'S KINGDOM BUT IN VERSE 20-22 DANIEL SAYS IT REPRESENTS NEBUCHADNEZZAR AND VERSE 25 DANIEL SAYS SEVEN TIMES WOULD PASS OVER NEBUCHADNEZZAR. IN THEIR DANIEL BOOK PAGE 87 AND BOTTOM PAGE OF 94-95. ON PAGE 96-97 IS WHERE THEY DO THEIR 1914 THING. SO THEY CONTRIDICT THE BIBLE. EVEN IN THEIR NEW BOOK THEY ARE STUDYING THEY DO THIS SAME THING ABOUT 'THE TREE.' THEY KEEP POUNDING IT IN THEIR HEAD . THERE ARE SO MANY LIES THEY TEACH, YOU CAN'T BEGIN TO TELL IT ALL.. THERE ARE THOSE WHO WILL STAY IN NO MATTER WHAT, BECAUSE THEY LOVE THAT ORGANIZATION MORE THEN THE TRUTH.
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  Alwayshere

  FORGOT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THEY WILL EXPLAIN IT THEIR WAY [AS USUAL]
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  Shazard

  Common... WT will perish as perished first arians. FOr them it took 3 centuries. For WT it will take less than that. So in general if you look on the numbers of JW in the world, they actually do not exist. They are NOT... they ar so small... over whole face of the world. And even then they are perishing. God allways keeps his promisses and one promise is to not let unpunished ones who takes Lords name in vane.
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  peacefulpete

  The total deportation in all 3 phases equal only 4,600 people according to the Jeremiah text. 2 Kings mentions only 2 deportations and that these total at least 13,000 but specifically says that the peasantry, since they posed no threat, remained in the land to farm:

  25:12 and of the poor of the land hath the chief of the executioners left for vine-dressers and for husbandmen.

  The Chronicler was specifically rewriting the histories of 1 and 2 Kings after the return of the elite from exile to emphasize the irrelevence of the indigenous peoples. They the elite were the only people that mattered in his religio/political scheme therefore he asserted that the land itself was empty and at Sabbath rest. He also reinterpreted the 70 years,( but that is another subject). The textual history of Jeremiah is a mess and just how much the Chronicler's work influenced isolated words like "desolate" is uncertain.

  Archaeology confirms that not only the farmers but small cities continued to function right on through. Its possible that some small cities that may have been largely emptied were reinhabited by rural folks or from other villages. Ultimately the myth of the empty land has been debunked using the OT and archaeology.
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  Leolaia

  Articles by Oded Lipschits (especially "The Rural Settlement of Judah in the Sixth Century B.C.E." published in Palestine Exploration Quarterly, Vol. 136, 2004) show that there was not a total depopulation of the land. Tribal settlements in the region of Benjamin and in the area between Bethlehem and Beth-Zur in Judah continued unhindered during the period and Lipschits shows that this was part of a general Babylonian military policy to let some areas remain populated in order to exploit the resources in those places. In the case of Judah, the rural highlands were used for olive oil and wine production. It is a little bizarre to think that the Babylonians overthrew the local government and depopulated the main cities (i.e. Jerusalem as much as 90-100%), fully annexing the former vassal province to the kingdom, and yet fail to exploit any of its natural resources.

  Moreover, Ezra describes the land surrounding Jerusalem as already inhabited when the first exiles returned from Babylon, presumably by non-Judeans. Again, how bizarre is it that a fertile and desirable land was left uninhabited for 50 years, especially after the original inhabitants were relocated? Does that make any sense? It would be like leaving north Georgia and Arkansas uninhabited after the forced migration of the Cherokee.
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  rassillon

  Great scripture. I am marking it right now. -r