I'm really ticked right now!!! (page 5)

lola28

Sammie, I just read your post to my 13 year old sister and she almost cried. It made her mad to think that any one would treat their father that way. I am so sorry you have to deal with this, do not send them any more letters and no more gifts it will only anger and hurt you when she retuns them. There was a KM a few years ago that went into detail about what kind of contact one could have with DFed family members I don't have a copy of it but maybe some else here does.

**Hugs for you and your husband**

Lola & sister

Forscher

I'd say ignore them.
Ask nothing from them. Do nothing for them. You might want to consider sending them a personal letter from you (even the strictest rules allow them to accept that) nicely telling them that if You'd ever had any thoughts of looking into their religion that their attitude has killed them.
On a practical side. the advise on disinheriting them is something you should consider anyway. You never know what is going to happen in life and you may get lucky and get something worth inheriting. Besides, JWs are a greedy lot and you never know what their likely to do if and when they find out your husband dies.
Forscher

inbyathread

I'm for the disinheiritance thing. Write up a formal letter of intent. State that until these children come to their senses and stop associating with Jehovah's Witnesses, there will be NO financial assistance nor will upon death of parents will any assets be divided out to them. All property will be sold outright and any profits resulting from said sale will be donated to (pick favorite charity).

Since witnesses like to add scripture to their letters (to add some form of validation) you do the same. I suggest Matthew 5:12 Rejoice and leap for joy, since YOUR reward is great in the heavens. and James 1:2 Consider it all joy my brothers, when you meet with various trials.

If they want to be witnesses, then with this letter you will be "Helping" them become better witnesses.

sammielee24

Incidently, do you happen to know the color of their Masks?

On a day like today I see their mask as ruby red - the color of all the blood that's been shed in the name of Jehovah via the Watchtower.

On any other day I'm a little more lenient and would say it is the mask of civility, honor, love, friendship and loyalty.

sammieswife..

sf

On any other day I'm a little more lenient and would say it is the mask of civility, honor, love, friendship and loyalty.

Civility. Honor. Love. Friendship. Loyalty. Surely you are not describing jws, on ANY day.

Jws live their minutes counting down the second they get their Golden Carrot.

They don't do this with civilty, honor, love or friendship. And we all know where their loyalty is concreted.

If you come upon a jw wearing anyone of the Masks above, I will admit, they are good at making sure you can't see what's under it. Yet, if you know what your looking at is indeed a Mask, it's fun to watch their 'makeup' drip.

sKally

sammielee24

Thanks Lola....Forscher you are no doubt right and that is something we will be working on as far as inheritance..the future is untold so you are right. Letting them know that their actions have turned me away from even entertaining the thought of joining the religion - I did do that wih my mother in law at a family funeral. She handed us a note which I read right after the service telling us not to visit with her because she wished to refrain from any association with disfellowshipped ones, well I made a decision never to be in contact with them again.(my husbands kids were also there but left the room when we entered and hid up there..when we exited, the then re-entered so they would have no contact with us in any way...everyone knew what was going on) She wrote to me a month or so after that and started out her letter with 'you must be surprised to hear from me'.........well, that made my blood boil ..duh..what do you think??? So I sent her back a 5 page letter of how I saw things and how I felt - I started my letter by responding to her question - 'yes, quite frankly I was surprised to hear from you considering the blatantly rude and inconsiderate treatment that we were subjected to while visiting you for a family funeral.' I was respectful in my letter but made no bones in how I felt about a mother giving up her children, even to the point of death, to a man made organization. I duly informed her that I could deal with any problem she had with visiting me, but my husband is her son..she bore him and how easily she turned her back on him. When she wrote back it was a month later and she ignored pretty well everything but she did insert the statement that 'when he is reinstated we will get to know you'..I think not. Inbyathread - I do agree with including scripture - they like to toss it around so I would like to toss it right back.

A note to any JW lurkers - these are the stories that are being talked about. Not how honest or kind or charitable you all are. Not how loyal you are. I do not tell stories of how you follow the bible...I make no bones about the shallowness of the Society and its followers. I tell them how demeaning it is to be a 'wordly' person and sit in the hall and listen to them run you down and in what ways. I tell them how much you hate the world and its people but you pretend to love them by knocking on their door. I tell them about the money and the investments, the 2 witness rule, disfellowshipping and shunning, I tell them all of this. They sap it up. They listen eagerly. These are my experiences and I like to share them. The Watchtower is constantly telling you to keep Jehovah's name clean - that's a laugh. They do everything they can to ensure it is sullied by the very acts you inflict on others.

sammieswife.

Forscher

I hope you're starting to feel a little bit better now sammielee24.
I've had a simliar situation in my family. I am not Df'd. And when the situation started I was an active Dub in good standing. It invovled a stepson who I raised from practically when he was a baby. He ended up marrying into a dub family that is rich. The problem was that his new father-in-law hates my guts and consider's me not even as good as trailer trash.
They arranged for his no count biological father (a witnoid who is a habitual adulterer and wife abuser) to come back into his life and I was treated as if I was Df'd. Shoot, when the last child that was born to them came into the world, I was asked to stay away from the hospital and was not allowed to even see that child for a number of years.
Although I don't have much at the moment, I don't plan on staying that way. As far as I am concerned, he is disinherited. The wife has disinherited him as well, she doesn't like it at all when somebody treats her man that way. He staked his future on the good will of his father-in-law, he is welcome to it!
Forscher

mouthy

Civility. Honor. Love. Friendship. Loyalty. Surely you are not describing jws, on ANY day.

Sorry I have to disagree here... Most JW I knew were friendly ( if you were one of then) I think they ARE Loyal to the WT.... They have to be civil at the doors.The thing wrong with the Witness is she/he has lost her/his OWN mind & has taken on the WT rules ( which changes them) I really was a good JW did all that "MOTHER"said I should do, EXCEPT believe 1914.. I think a lot of JWS REALLY BELIEVE THEY ARE DOINGS GODS WILL... Remember scripture says,,,,"They are blind CANNOT SEE ---Ears do NOT hear "only what the WT says. You have to admit the WT is ruled by another god,THAT god has captured the minds .... Let us have continous pray for them,or karma, or what ever you do... ask for their release from the god of this world whom I believe is Satan.... Excuse the spelling I am lousy at it....

sf

Respectfully mouthy, those are Masks, not genuine qualities that they possess.

There is nothing genuine about jws accept for their desire for all of us to be dead, by jehovahs hand and inherit the earth.

sKally

sass_my_frass

Oh man that's ugly. Did they keep the voucher?

I've been given that 'important family business' speech by a dozen people, and I also want to ask them exactly what 'important family business' is. I imagine that they consider it only when somebody has died, but I'm not to attend the funeral as then they wouldn't be able to eat anything. I've concluded that the only thing I can do about it is forget them. There's just no other way. The only thing I can control is my relationship with their non-witness family, who I think are getting the message and sick of their games too.

The justice they face is real though - they're the ones who are over the years getting more miserable and fed up. I'm just making sure that they understand that it's their choice to cut me off, not mine to lose them.

I'm really ticked right now!!!

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