Taped Call w/ JR Brown on Cano

by Synergy 16 Replies latest watchtower scandals

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  Roddy

  > My thought on this is that any current Witness who is lurking here or even an active Witness who is involved but not out, needs to write the Governing Body and ask them when the change took place. Reference JR Browns quotes directly and tell them his words have stumbled you ..you need answers. Theocratic warfare is lying plain and simple. Call a spade a spade cos that's what it is. The Elder in alamb's court case lied opening in a court of law - this also flies in the face of what Brown stated, that they work with governments and so on. A lie is a lie is a lie...and doesn't Jehovah know that? sammieswife

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  Forget it!!!! The GB is not the power behind the WTS anymore. It's the Legal Dept that has the political clout for a long time now. The WTS is run by their lawyers! JR Brown gets his cues from the Legal Dept and not from the GB.

  It is really interesting. When I first saw the "re-organiztion" of the WTS years ago I said to myself that the GB is over! I think the lawyers sold the GB into taking the back seat to "protect" them from liabilities and so they could 'concentrate on Spiritual matters' when actually it is to get these senile old men out of the way before they say or do something stupid.

  If there is going to be a new generation of GB, they will be hand picked figure-heads and yes-men of the Legal Dept.
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  ronin1

  I Roddy:

  I definitely agree with you on your statement of who really controls the WTS.

  My husband and I have been discussing this issue for a long time. When he was a MS and after he stepped down, he kept telling me the changes came after the reorganization and I have known for a long time that it is the Legal, Writing and Service Departments that are controling WTS.

  The GB members are basically pions (acking with limited power) spewing lies to the rank and file.

  Ronin1
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  fjtoth

  If there is going to be a new generation of GB, they will be hand picked figure-heads and yes-men of the Legal Dept.

  I wouldn't rush to that conclusion. I saw how things worked at headquarters for 40 years, and I just can't imagine Ted Jaracz and some of the others in power stepping aside. If they did, it would be easily observed at Bethel, and the disillusionment of seeing "the anointed" no longer in control would be leaked to elders, circuit overseers, district overseers and the branches. That would give the worldwide organization a tremendous setback. No, I think headquarters is too tightly knit together for that to happen. For years the legal departments have experienced frustrations due to the limitations placed upon them by "the old men" of the GB. I really doubt that has changed.

  I believe a lot of consultation continues to take place, but in the final analysis the GB and persons like Don Adams and Max Larson still have the final say.
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  Sacchiel

  So this organization is not directed by the Holy Spirit (active force haha)? Of course not. This needs to be heard worldwide before anyone makes the jump into the WT.
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  AK - Jeff

  Can anyone ref the link to this interview?

  Can that file be loaded to CD-ROM? I would love to have it on an audio CD.

  Jeff
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  carla

  Where would an active jw even say he/she heard the interview? if not for apostates? I think my jw would say that the whole thing was staged and we don't know if it was really the wt or Brown!
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  Roddy

  I wouldn't rush to that conclusion. I saw how things worked at headquarters for 40 years, and I just can't imagine Ted Jaracz and some of the others in power stepping aside. If they did, it would be easily observed at Bethel, and the disillusionment of seeing "the anointed" no longer in control would be leaked to elders, circuit overseers, district overseers and the branches. That would give the worldwide organization a tremendous setback. No, I think headquarters is too tightly knit together for that to happen. For years the legal departments have experienced frustrations due to the limitations placed upon them by "the old men" of the ;GB. I really doubt that has changed.

  I believe a lot of consultation continues to take place, but in the final analysis the GB and persons like Don Adams and Max Larson still have the final say.

  I respect your 40 years at headquarters. But I think the GB powers are on the wane for some time now. No one will admit it. Just like they don't admit being a United Nations NGO or their compromise of the blood issue with Bulgaria.

  When Franz died there was no strong president at the helm since. Nor a strong voice from the GB. The GB is interested in maintaining the status quo and are too old to take on the tough issues anymore.