Update on my friend - the PO called

by fullofdoubtnow 24 Replies latest jw friends

  • riverofdeceit
    riverofdeceit

    Fricken shepherding calls. Nothing like one of those to ruin your Sunday (or what is left of it after the meeting). I remember when I was a kid who wanted to go play after but noooooooo. Those losers would come and read scriptures and make a mother of three and their kids feel crappy. Seriously, is there anyone who ever wanted a shepherding call? Ever have an elder leave your home and feel like they really did you any sort of favor (besides the leaving part)?

    Ok, I sound kinda mean and I'm sure some of them meant well. I can only think of one I knew personally as a youngster who didn't seem too full of himself so there are some out there, but still, shepherding calls blew! Uplifting visits my a**.

  • karen96
    karen96
    Maybe she should tell the po to "wait on Jehovah" in regard to her while she sorts things out in the meantime.

    That is priceless! Give them a bit of their own advice!

    I wish your friend the best. I fear it won't take long for them to visit her in person, and I hope she feels ready for it.

    karen

  • fullofdoubtnow
    fullofdoubtnow

    Marion, myself and Trev have been chatting a lot tonight, and we all agree that eventually the elders will catch up with her, and she will have to have a face - to - face talk with them, although she will use delaying tactics for as long as possible. We have been and will continue to be as supportive as we possibly can, but we can't do much when the confrontation takes place, as we are both da'd, and if the elders knew she is associating with us then the s**t would really hit the fan, and quickly, so she may have to face that alone.

    Trev came up with a suggestion that she contacts her youngest son, who never became a jw, and who would be delighted if she stopped being one, and maybe have him there when the elders visit. He lives in the area, and they couldn't object to his prescence as he is family and is not an ex jw like us. She is considering that one, and I personally think it would be a good idea, there would be a witness to what was said.

    In the meantime, she's going to continue with the evasive tactics for as lond as she can, but I know from experience that the po is not the most patient of men, so she may not get away with it for long. Please keep her in your thoughts, and we will keep you updated on what happens.

    Linda

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    Is there any reason why she doesn't want to just tell them, "I quit."?

  • fullofdoubtnow
    fullofdoubtnow
    Is there any reason why she doesn't want to just tell them, "I quit."?

    Well, apart from her youngest son and one sister, all her family are in the org, and all of her friends apart from us are in as well. She realises it isn't the truth, and doesn't have any desire to attend any more meetings, but she doesn't want to lose her family and friends virtually overnight either. She wants to fade, if they will let her, and sees the evasive tactics she's using now as a necessity for the time being at least.

  • juni
    juni
    Trev came up with a suggestion that she contacts her youngest son, who never became a jw, and who would be delighted if she stopped being one, and maybe have him there when the elders visit. He lives in the area, and they couldn't object to his prescence as he is family and is not an ex jw like us. She is considering that one, and I personally think it would be a good idea, there would be a witness to what was said

    Good suggestion; also she would have some support there with her as some of the elders get pretty intense and can be intimidating with shyer ones.

    Juni

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    It's a pain when almost all of your family is in the Watchtower lie. I faded for about 2-3 years until my zealous JW wife (now ex) went to the Watchtower Gestapo squad with news that I wasn't using official WTBTS literature to study the bible.

    I hope she can succesfully fade. It would be easier to be able to maintain family ties.

    Ask any JW if they are involved with a cult and they vehemently deny it despite the overwhelming evidence against the Watchtower that is piled up in a big stinking heap of smell bad.

  • Poztate
    Poztate
    Marion, myself and Trev have been chatting a lot tonight, and we all agree that eventually the elders will catch up with her, and she will have to have a face - to - face talk with them, although she will use delaying tactics for as long as possible.

    A meeting would only bring up a DA'ing or DF'ing. If she truly wants to fade IGNORE THEM.It is hard for them to do anything to you when you will not talk to them but if you get into a JC your ass is grass. She OWES them NOTHING..

  • press any key
    press any key

    a quick suggestion - has she considered going back to a couple of meetings and then stopping again

    rather than cold turkey like now, a good fade takes time (like Wild Turkey )

    i know it is almost impossible to stomach when you know the "truth" about the lie but if she wants to reduce chances of being sprung

    although you cant be dfed for not going to meetings, and refusing to answer questions so she may be on the right track

    best of luck

    cheers

    pak

  • gymbob
    gymbob

    Your friend Marion sounds like a smart gal and handled the PO perfectly, however, he doesn't sound like the kind of guy that's going to give-up easy. From my experience, these guys just don't like it when you don't play 'right', that is, recognize that THEY'RE suppose to be in control, not you.

    But, sometimes they get busy and just go away. My kids faded 3 years ago and they never hear a thing from any JW. GYMBB

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