d&a, I'm sorry to hear your story... you will get through this and make new friends. You are already starting to, here. Getting out of the Witnesses is no fun, but it can be survived. Now if only I can get there myself...
Disgusting comment regarding the baptism at the DC
by under_believer 68 Replies latest jw friends
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Forscher
I wouldn't call the comment disgusting.
It is really enlightening! If they are having to ramp up the numbers by reaching deep and baptising younger and younger children (just what Rutherford did at one point when he released the "Children" book), then tey've got some problems.
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disowned&alone
Hey Under....
Thanks for the kind words. It's been 9 years since this transpired, and I have began the healing process a few years back. Now I am happily married, free from cult control, and practicing another religion quite happily. It's still funny how much this memories still sting after all these years. It's nice to be amongst people who understand this...for the first time!!
Disowned and Not So Alone After All.
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Fleshybirdfodder
It really goes to show how ridiculous and needy this organization is. I was baptised at 14 after constant badgering from my mother. because an elder's son in the congregation of the same age was getting baptised. I had no bloody clue what I was getting into. I was completely coached through the questions to expedite the process. I never felt even a modicum of spiritual edification . I was a kid and wanted to go outside and play in the fresh air, but wanted my parents to be happy even more.
After I was dunked the man in the white t-shirt asked me how I felt. I just looked at him with a blank stare. I wish I had told him the truth. I really just felt like I needed a shower.
FBF
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Odrade
No matter how much you say that it's all behind you and you're living a great life, the fact that you're here means something. Whatever the reason, it's not been a "clean break." Just my thoughts.
Either that or I'm just a discussion board junkie who can't bear to "miss anything." Bwahahaha! Seriously, I do agree with you, nobody gets out of that unscathed. Someone this morning was joking with me that I'm pretty well-adjusted "for an ex-cultie." We laughed, because what exactly does that mean??? I guess to me, it means that I'm no longer hobbled by my past. It was a rough re-entry (well, not really RE-entry since I'd never been "normal" to begin with, ROTFL!) but I guess I'm pretty resilient, because life is good now. -
mcsemike
I always wondered why the WT didn't follow the example of Jesus and have people wait until they are 30 years old. They will probably use some excuse about the Mosaic Law and it not being over with yet when Jesus got baptized, but if there was ever a good time to use a literal example for something, I would think Jesus would be it. I will never understand how anyone under the age of 18 (and in my case 27 years old) can commit his/her life to an organization that has the potential to tear his life and family asunder if the rules aren't obeyed. People aren't even allowed to get married in most states at the ages that the WT encourages baptism. Yet marriage to them is not as important. It also seems that more people suffer depression and suicide after being DF'd than they do after a divorce. To me, this indicates that the end of a marriage might be more survivable than being DF'd and shunned for life by your family. There is no logic in this.
Does anyone know of a study or some information that has a bearing on this issue? I would greatly appreciate it. Many thanks in advance.
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kilroy2
the only way the dubbers can hold on to their numbers it by breading more little dubbers, the kids dont have a chance.
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LovesDubs
Its interesting to compare the statistics the society puts out every year. See the number of newly baptized ones? See the number of bible studies? The number of HOURS put in? What percentage then of those studies became baptized? How many hours of study did it take for EACH of those newly baptized ones to be "brought in"? And, if they were bNOT being studied with, which is the case with most of the JW KIDS...then that means even MORE hours had to be spent on the few bible studies actually held with people in the ministry who were not JWs kids. Scary.
Also if you take last years total, add this years new members.....then compare THAT number to the total they SAY is the new total you will see that it falls SHORT of your new number by a HUGE amount. Why? BECAUSE THE REST OF THEM LEFT!!! AND YOU LURKERS....THE ONES WHO LEFT WERE PROBABLY KIDS WHO WERE BAPTISED AGAINST THEIR WILL AND YOU WILL NOW HAVE LOST THEM BECAUSE YOU FORCED THEM TO GET BAPTISED TO SAVE YOUR FACE IN THE CONGREGATION!!
THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO YOUR KIDS....SAVING THEM??? OR DESTROYING THEM??
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littlerockguy
Jourls said: "In the congregation I was in when I was baptized, there was one particular brother who ALWAYS asked me to say prayer. AND I WASN'T BAPTIZED YET. I would get that little nervous look on my face and shake my head slightly. Then he would say, "Oh that's right. I forgot you're not baptized yet." If you went and visited friends out of state, they would ask you to say prayer at the meals. Do you know how embarrassed you feel when you say you can't 'cause you're not baptized yet? If you're old enough to grow facial hair, or drive for that matter, it is automatically assumed that you are already baptized." I remember having to deal with situations like that too; no peer pressure there!!
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purplesofa
wouldn't let my kids get baptized. I thought they were too young. I felt that if they made mistakes due to immaturity, they might end up being disfellowshipped and that was unacceptable to me.
ditto