What religion are you... if any?

by Effervescent 38 Replies latest jw friends

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek

    Effervescent:

    Anymore the word "religion" seems to hava a negative connotation that a lot of Christians want to steer away from. For me it brings up images of bible thumping, greed in the name of faith, and politicking.

    For me as well. Nonetheless, that's not what it means.

    For me, if I were to say, I belong to a "faith" or have a Christian belief system, but aren't religious, it means I don't feel the need to conform to a set list of dogmas, and I won't try to cram my beliefs down anyones throat.

    OK, but that's got nothing to do with the actual meaning of the word religion. Your "faith" and "Christian belief system" are a religion in almost any sense of the word. What you seem to mean is that you are not dogmatic about your religion.

    I've gone to several different churches and enjoyed them all for different reasons. It's more about that internal relationship and joy than any definition or label one might put on your beliefs.

    The "definition or label" helps people to understand what you're talking about. Words have meanings which apply to certain entities or phenomena. You may not like them but if you arbitrarily dismiss them or decide on your own meaning, you will not be understood.

    Really, it's just words and how a person feels when they hear that word. In the end, it's all just personal preference.

    No it's not. It's about commonly accepted usage. If you define words according to your "personal preference" rather than their accepted meanings, then you will cause confusion. BrendaCloutier:

    I hope you had a good trip back home.

    Yes I did, thank you. Short and uneventful. Hope you enjoyed this side of the pond.

    Going back to dictonary.com description, yes, I have a belief structure. However, I do not gather with others who share similar belief structures, nor do I serve the god(s)/dess because I believe they are not beings to be served nor desirous of such devotion, contrary to most "wo/man's" teachings. So I am non-religious.

    Seems to me you fit right in to definition 1a: "Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe". I guess it hinges on whether your respect for the "god(s)/dess" extends to reverence. (Of course other definitions do not stipulate reverence as a requirement; a belief in supernatural entities that influence our universe is sufficient to qualify as religion.)

    So I reinforce that I have a spiritual belief structure without the need for a "religious" environment.

    Your spiritual belief structure looks a lot like a religion to me. I suppose if you just happen to believe that "the god(s)/dess" exist(s) but are indifferent to their existence, then it might fall more into the category of superstition than religion, but I doubt you'd prefer that term.

  • BrendaCloutier
    BrendaCloutier


    Hey, FunkyD

    Viva la semantics

    Supertsicious my arse! Just don't step on that crack.....

  • serendipity
    serendipity

    Interesting that Maine and Rhode Island registered 2% JWs.

    I still have many JW beliefs, but I find the Unitarian Universalists, Biblical Unitarians, Unity church and Disciples of Christ interesting religions that I would consider.

  • xJ-HO
    xJ-HO

    None. I have since done a lot of research on evolution, fossil records and geology. There are still holes in these theories, but there is one thing that is guaranteed; human beings grow old and then they die. So live your life now, and enjoy the freedom to make your own choices in this life.

    What did those "bad" people in the bible say, "live, drink and be merry because tomorrow we shall die..."

  • Auchmull
    Auchmull

    Agnostic.

    And I *hate* not believing in anything.

  • serendipity
    serendipity

    HI Auchmull and welcome! I look forward to your story when you're ready to share.

  • riverofdeceit
    riverofdeceit

    The question is pretty simple though people seem to be freaking out about it. I have no religion. I want no religion. I am no religion.

  • Effervescent
    Effervescent
    Nonetheless, that's not what it means

    Derek-

    I totally understand your point. If you want to label my faith "religion" I've got nothing against that... I'm mearly expressing why I myself don't use or subscribe to that term. The words "religion" and "faith" mean two different things to me. That's all I was trying to say.

    I guess I don't really have a problem being misunderstood, or looking at things from my own unique standpoint. If someone doesn't understand what I mean, than if it's important enough, they'll ask for clarification, if not *shrugs*. I try to not sweat the small stuff.

  • Auchmull
    Auchmull

    Hi serendipity -- and thanks.

    I have trouble getting back to where I've posted (is there a trick?).

    I'm doing bible studies with a JW and have been researching them to find out more. My religious background is just about as confused as it gets. I was born technically Christian (never baptised), my mom married a Jewish man so I went to Sabbath school, decided I didn't believe in god so refused to be Bat Mitzvahed. I converted to Catholocism (that spelling looks very wrong) about 11 years ago, drifted away from that and have been doing nothing until a JW came to my door a few weeks ago.

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