GAY WOMEN

by Dansk 32 Replies latest social relationships

  • ann1968sab
    ann1968sab

    I know this post is way old...but I thought I'd answer anyway.

    I found out I was gay at age 35 after being in the JW's for my whole life. Looking back I can see many clues that should have told me sooner, but living such a sheltered life...I just never got it. I always knew I was different, but never knew why. I talked about boys, I looked at boys, I married a man...I didn't know what it felt like to be head over heels in love until I fell in love with a woman. Then I finally got it.

    I was absolutely born that way. Nothing in my family life was sexually disfunctional. This is me. Coming out did not change me, I am still me, I just know me better and have better words to describe me.

    I have two hetero siblings. Neither speak to me. One is a JW, one is just nuts.

    My parents know, my mom is a JW and limits her contact with me to things that relate to my kids. Deep down I know she gets it though...she lives by the JW rules. My father is not a JW, and he is reservedly ok with it.

    I miss having more male friends, but I don't want to sleep with any of them. I know now where I belong and I won't ever desire to be intimate with a man again. It never felt right to me when I was married and I dreaded and avoided sex. I don't now.

    As far as using "toys", do you like, as an option, a blow-job? If so, then would it matter if it was a man's mouth or a woman's mouth? I assume, if you are a heterosexual male, that you'd prefer a woman giving you one. It isn't about what is happening to you, with what methodology, it is about who is doing it.

    I don't find the term lesbian offensive...but it took a while to feel good rolling off my tounge.

    There are spectrums for all people for what turns our head and what makes us swoon. There are also spectrums for all people for how we feel comfortable presenting to the world. I am a fairly femme lesbian, and a somewhat more masculine woman turns my head most of the time...but it is much more about who she is than what she looks like.

    Hope that helps...even though this is old!

  • avishai
    avishai

    As far as the stereo-types go, dansk, I asked that question once too...

    See, you don't notice the "lipstick" lesbians, because why would you? They don't look like what we've been taught lesbians look like!!

    As far as the bi thing goes, It's tough, that community often gets hassle from BOTH sides, gay and straight.

  • momzcrazy
    momzcrazy

    My sister is gay, just came out to me last month. Actually, I told her I already knew. She was shocked I could tell. Even though her and her GF have been married, it really came as no surprise to my family. My sister is a no makeup, cargo shorts, Birkenstock wearer kinda gal. Always has been. She brought her friend to a BBQ, before she came out, and everyone could tell just by looking. My hubby and I are actually confused as to who is the more femme one. But it doesn't matter because my sis is happy. After nursing her hubby until his death from cancer, I think she's earned some happiness. And she's my sister, I can't think too much about it, ewwww! I'm afraid I'll find out too much because they are coming to a Passion Party at my house.

    She has said almost exactly what ann has said. Besides not being a witless, and having a GF with a child, she's my same strange sis and I love her.

    momz

  • ex-nj-jw
    ex-nj-jw
    fullofdoubtnowRe: GAY WOMEN


    Post 2433 of 6328
    since 24-Oct-05



    48 y 7 m 10 d

    Bisexuality and Curry Fests - their connection to one another. Explain.
    Hmmm, might have to a bit of research into that one, nothing much springs to mind at the moment...

    I thought Linda had be resurrected!

    nj

  • erynw
    erynw

    Me too NJ. Took my drugged up mind a second to process what I was reading.

  • ex-nj-jw
    ex-nj-jw

    At least you have an excuse eryn, I havn't even had a glass of wine yet. *trotts of to kitchen to open a bottle of Chardonay*

    nj

  • Gretchen956
    Gretchen956
    When did you realise you were gay? At what age?

    I don't know why I didn't know earlier that I was a lesbian, I never knew any lesbians as a role model, I didn't see any portrayed in media or see any in stories that I read, so I really didn't know what one was. Like someone else said, I knew I was different, and at some level I even knew I was attracted to women, but I stuffed that way back in my head because it was too scary to think about. There were lots of little signs, though, if I had only knew to look at them.

    To further complicate matters, when I grew up and actually saw a couple of lesbians, they were very masculine. I'm feminine, and I am attracted to feminine women. I'm not attracted to masculine women any more than I am to men, thats just a personal thing. At any rate, it wasn't anything I really focused on or thought about until much later, because I knew if I even so much as thought about it I would acknowledge it. And if I acknowledged it Satan would put a sexy gay woman in my path and I wouldn't be able to resist her. Ha. Like that was ever going to happen in Montana!!

    Do you think your family upbringing made you gay or do you consider you were just born that way?

    The theory that we were shaped by family interaction has long been debunked and is only trotted out (to my knowledge) by anti-gay pastors. And, in fact, there was such a theory about gay men, but that I have ever heard of about lesbians. I believe that there is a genetic component, there may also be some nurture, the jury is still out. But in my family the gay relations are all on my dad's side of the family, there are none on my mom's. I have a gay brother, a gay uncle, a gay cousin, and a gay great great uncle, though there are most likely more that I don't know about too.

    Do you have heterosexual siblings? If so, how have they responded to you?

    I have five brothers and one sister. As can be expected, the JW family shun me, and the non JW family do not. They could really care less of my orientation (the ones that do not shun). I also have a son, and he is one of my best friends and loves me.

    Do your parents know? If so, how have they reacted to you?

    My parents say that I am dead to them. I was not DFd or DAd, and they talked to me still (of course to try to guilt me into coming back, mostly) but the second they found out I 'm gay they cut me off. Mom now likes to tell people that I am demonized. Guess thats the only reason she thinks I could end up this way.

    Do you not fancy men at all, i.e. do you not think you could ever have a deeply loving relationship with a man, even marrying him for life?

    I partially answered this above, but I was married. I married because I was supposed to. I even thought I loved him until later when I found out what that really felt like. But I am not attracted to men, nor do I find men's bits at all attractive or exciting. In fact before I ever admitted this to myself, while I was deep in denial, I always kind of found the male "stuff" kind of repulsive (sorry).

    This next question is sensitive, I'm sorry: I've heard that some gay women use sexual items, like dildos. If a gay woman uses these why, then, wouldn't she go with a man?

    Yes, there are some gay women that use these. Just like there are some married heterosexual men that use anal toys. In most cases you'll find that the women who do use these buy ones not shaped like a male's "ahem" bits. As for me and those that I have been with, toys are totally not necessary nor desired.

    Do you find the term 'Lesbian' offensive?

    Nope

    Some gay women really do look masculine. If a gay woman goes with suchlike why, then, won't she go with a man?

    Well I don't find masculine women as attractive, but even if I did, I think the answer is, they are not men, they don't have male parts, they have female parts, they don't act like men, they don't feel like men, they don't smell like men, they understand women, and they love women. I don't know if I have answered it, because I'm not an authority, but this just isn't an apples-to-apples comparison here.

    Again, if you are a gay woman/girl I sincerely apologise if you have found anything offensive here. I would be profoundly grateful if you would answer my questions. If you would rather pm me, fine.

    For what it's worth, I do have gay friends - but they are all male

    No offense, I know this post is old but I only just saw it resurrected (along with Linda - that gave me a bit of a startle), so I'm answering now.

    BTW, hope you are feeling well and everything is going ok. Happy holidays to you and your family, Ian.

    Sherry

  • Dansk
    Dansk

    Wow, an old thread of mine has been resurrected!!

    ((((((((Ann)))))))), WELCOME! And thanks for posting so candidily.

    Thank you to all the latest posters.

    Now, I have a confession. The reason I started the thread is because the second woman I spoke about in my first post is.................my daughter! Yes, Stephanie is gay and hid it extremely well all her years. She has had a conflict in her head because she was also dedicated to Jehovah and genuinely believed she had to rid herself of her feelings. That's why she never joined Claire and I when we exited. Stephanie thought we had gone against God!!

    Now, she could no longer suppress her feelings and she is in a steady relationship with another girl. Stephanie posts here under the name 'faundy'. She has been living back home for some time now and we are building a better relationship. It has been difficult for her but I am extremely proud of her. I am also more understanding of homosexual behaviour.

    Love,

    Ian

  • White Dove
    White Dove

    What an awsome father you are! Stephanie/Faundy is so lucky to have unconditional love like that.

  • sweetstuff
    sweetstuff

    Stephanie/Faundy is lucky to have such a wonderful father Ian and you are lucky to have such a wonderful daughter, I am very happy that you are both working on building a better relationship, best of luck with it and I hope you are feeling better. ((((hugs))))

    Reading some of the posters responses brought a tear to my eye, especially Sherry's, to have your own mother refer to you as "demonized", how sad. My heart goes out to anyone who has had to grow up as a JW and come to the realization they are gay and it is completely beyond their control, not that anyone should control their sexual orientation of course. I can only imagine how scary that must be, thinking you are an abomination in "God's" eyes, what a crock of $!it, the bible doesn't call pedophiles that, yet refers to anyone gay that way, yeah, inspired of something alright....fertilizer.

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