Genesis names the four rivers in the Garden of Eden.
Where did the water for these come from if there was no rain?
George
Rain before Noah's flood
by monkeyshine 37 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Apognophos
Well, there was water in the 'springs of the earth'. That would probably be my answer as a JW.
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rjharris
There are several points to keep in mind:
- The flood of Noah's day was not a global flood. Why? Because God had not yet confused the languages of mankind causing them to disperse. So the whole earth was not yet populated. It was the "world" (environment) of Noah's day that was subject to a flood.
- There is no way Noah could have tranversed all over the earth to gather animals. It was the animals in the locale in which the flood occurred.
Many ask, "Well, where did all of the water we see to day in the oceans and elsewhere come from?"
The answer to this question is extremely easy. What does was the state of the earth BEFORE God began to prepare it so that life could be here and BEFORE the floof of Noah's Day? Answer: Genesis 1:2:
"Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was darkness upon the surface of [the] watery deep; and God’s active force was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters."
The entire earth was a watery deep from the very beginning. God had made dry land appear out of that watery deep. (Genesis 1:9) It was that "dry land" where ever Noah and the other people resided that was flooded out.
So the flood of Noah's day had nothing to do with a global flood. For those who claim that it is responsible, you would be hard pressed to explain Genesis 1:2 as the water was always there long before life appeared on the earth.
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jam
rjharris: Most religious organization don't talk about that anymore,
they mostly admit it was a local flood.
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wizzstick
1. The flood of Noah's day was not a global flood. Why? Because God had not yet confused the languages of mankind causing them to disperse. So the whole earth was not yet populated. It was the "world" (environment) of Noah's day that was subject to a flood.
Sorry but nothing in the Genesis account connects the population of the earth with the flood. Instead you have all this in Genesis 7:17-22 (bold mine):
17 The flooding continued* for 40 days on the earth, and the waters kept increasing and began carrying the ark, and it was floating high above the earth. 18 The waters became overwhelming and kept increasing greatly upon the earth, but the ark floated on the surface of the waters. 19 The waters overwhelmed the earth so greatly that all the tall mountains under the whole heavens were covered.+ 20 The waters rose up to 15 cubits* above the mountains. 21 So all living creatures* that were moving on the earth perished+—the flying creatures, the domestic animals, the wild animals, the swarming creatures, and all mankind.+ 22 Everything on dry land that had the breath of life* in its nostrils died.
The Bible claims that the earth was covered over 'all the tall mountains' 'up to 15 cubits' (or about 22½ feet / 7 meters).
These is no evidence to back this up.
Genesis 7:24:
24 And the waters continued overwhelming the earth for 150 days.
Genesis 8:3-4:
3 Then the waters began to recede progressively from the earth. By the end of 150 days, the waters had subsided. 4 In the seventh month, on the 17th day of the month, the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ar′a·rat.
150 days (or 5 months) is also too long for a local flood. How could the Ark come to rest on a mountain if this was just a local flood?
This is just one of many examples of where the Bible is wrong. Sorry rjharris, but there you go. Trying to be reasonable and peddling the local flood idea doesn't work when the Bible contradicts such an idea. Water covering the tallest mountains, with the ark said to be floating high above the earth, does not a local flood make!
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jam
You must remember the mountains were tiny little hills..LOL
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Comatose
Why did Noah have to send out birds to their deaths wondering if the water was gone? No windows?
Better question... If god was all talky talky before the flood and had conversations with Noah, why didn't Noah just ask god if the water was gone? God missing in action?
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jam
I always wondered, what knid of navigation system did
Noah have. He ended up in the same area..He was able
to stay in the same area but not able to spot land....
Maybe he had a hell of a anchor and rope to steady
the boat...