Your father was wrong in using that account for masturbation.
Col 3:5, Mat5:27,28 that's what he should've used.
The 'issue' of masturbation. (not a rude thread lol)
by KW13 29 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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KW13
MARY SAID: "Geeze Karl, didn't ya ever read the Youth book on this subject? All the answers to life's problems are in that book.
*** yy chap. 5 p. 37 Masturbation and Homosexuality ***
it is an expression of desiring something that does not rightly belong to one. God has provided marriage as the arrangement in which to satisfy sexual desires. But the person who practices masturbation is, in effect, trying to obtain that satisfaction without paying the price.
In Dub dumb land, nothings free. Considering that 95% of men masturbate, it's nice to see that no one's paying any attention to this midaeval crap."
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I 'forgot', its interesting to see who got drawn to this topic eh? =D
But anyway, yeh its pathetic that say its denying women their rightful satisfaction, what about teens/lads who are dubs and aren't allowed girlfriends or even sex before marriage...ya know, tis a waste!
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well lets put 2 and 2 togther.jesus said who ever stars at a woman to ahave a passion for her has committed adultery in his heart.so if one is masturbating wrong thoughts will come in to the mind.so if we abstain from that its better
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so what if it was your own wife/girlfriend? -
hamsterbait
WT 01/10/1975:
"Saving Ourself for the "Love of Our Youth."
OH, Dear, dear reader. You must listen NOW. Because Armageddon is so very neeeear.
Onan wasted his semen, and therefore expressed a murderous intent toward the family line of his brother.
Masturbation for unmarried persons is wrong in view of the biblical condemnation of "COVETOUSNESS" - a selfish desire for something to which one is not entitled. (ie release of sexual frustration)
So: Why have married elders been censured for masturbating, for example when their wife is pregnant? They are entitled to release their desires, are they not? (As long as it is his wife he fantasizes about - see my notes on "Masurbation to become a DF offense.")
YET if the elders wife is pregnant, he knows that a litttle "five knuckle shuffle" is not murderous, as he has guaranteed survival of his father's family line, has he not?
Doubtless, some young sisters have tickled the "hairy cup". Yet in satisfying their own selfish desire without a man, are they not also expressing "murderous intent toward the unborn"?
Thus, for a female to indulge her solitary deviance is akin to abortion. The body of Elders does not need to determine whether she watched pornography or fantasized "with greed". She is just a useless slut, with crap income. DF the bitch.
HB
Oh the depth and breadth of the WTBTS wisdom to save our genitals from the satanic caresses of solitary vice.
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restrangled
I remember a district assembly addressing this "problem" (Probably late 60's early 70's)....one of those 8 day scenerios, it was late in the day and the heat was unbearable. It was one of the most ridiculous talks I had ever heard. A REAL CRINGER!
The gist of it was that if you masturbate, married or not, Tit creates a selfish desire and could cause problems with future mates, or present for that matter.
Yep, real sound advice.
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restrangled
Oops, a slip there, I did not mean to say Tit, but it, lest anyone thought I did that on purpose!
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uwishufish
The real problem is that those 30,000 babies that show up at the pearly gates are only half babies.
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cognizant dissident
Restrangled:
I see your Freudian slip is showing! Are you sure you weren't fondling it while you wrote your message?
Cog
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restrangled
Dear Cog,
I knew I was going to get it for this.....but you'll never know
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monkeyshine
.so if one is masturbating wrong thoughts will come in to the mind.so if we abstain from that its better
Wrong thoughts or completely natural ones? Is not procreation natural? Humans have a sex drive that involves fantasies as a working part of it. It is the furthest thing from wrong. -imo
And to say it IS wrong is an opinion. Maybe this is not one person's opinion, but an opinion being relayed from another person or 'persons'.
If there ever was a matter of personal choice it is this. -imo