Yep. Ultimate stupidity and hypocrisy combined.
See J.R.Brown's answer in latest NEWSWEEK re: giving Christmas gifts to JWs
by AndersonsInfo 50 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
-
-
JWdaughter
Sometimes charitable groups get their list of who is in 'need' from free and reduced lunch apps. I am sure there is something illegal when that info is given out, but it might be more informal such as the "office ladies" know who the families are that are in need. . .sometimes they have applied for other help-school supplies, clothes, etc. MOST of the programs I am aware of do require a family to register. But I wouldn't give the JW family too hard a time-you know most of them DO have a need, and they sure as heck won't get any from the happiest people on earth, so 'to whom can they go?'
-
rebel8
I don't blame the family either, although if you check the Sub for Santa web site, the items to be given are not necessities like food. It is Christmas gifts, plain and simple. I imagine they knew what they were doing when they signed up.
Wrote a letter to Newsweek's editor today and also submitted the story to www.fark.com under the "dumba$$" category--title, "Jehovah's Witness who Voluntarily Signed Up for Christmas Gifts for the Poor Program will be Offended if he Gets Christmas Gifts, says JW Spokesman".
-
Emma
Goes to show you how easily they will do something they want, as long as its worded properly..
They love to play word games and split hairs; my ex was an absolute master of this. It took me years to recognize it as deceit.
In our town, the police department gets names from the free lunch program in the schools. When I was newly separated I qualified for help, and we got a call. We didn't think of ourselves as poor so it hurt to know others thought about us that way. My 12 year old daughter said their must be some mistake and they should help out a needy family! I knew I was doing something right.
Sorry for the ramble. My point is that you don't have to "sign up" it can just come knocking.
Emma, who loves to celebrate Christmas!
-
beautifulisfree
Man..There goes my Christmas spirit. I was gonna donate to the society on Dec25 or sometime that week. But, hey if they don't want it........
-
rebel8
Emma, You are right that some agencies look for candidates to help. I actually had forgotten about that. I checked and this one does too.
Anyway their web site indicates there is a lengthy application process--so in this particular case, I think the jws didn't just say yes without thinking about it. They were probably approached by the charity, but it should have dawned on them at some point in the application process and their Bible Trained Consciences (TM) should have kicked in once they realized it was all about Christmas.
Sub for Santa recipients are required to fill out an application to be considered for assistance. Federal poverty guidelines are used to determine those eligible for the program. Only residents of Cache County, Utah are eligible. Applicants must provide proof of income and residency. An interview is scheduled to verify information on the application. Applicants must provide a photo ID, address and income verification. If there is a question about eligibility, applicants are encouraged to fill out the application and submit it. Specific details or special circumstances can be discussed at the interview.
Applicants can choose whether to have gifts delivered by a sponsor or arrange to pick up their gifts the week before Christmas at a scheduled time.
-
KennyC
I am on his side on this one, so kiss my butt if you don't like it. I lost a perfectly good grandfather to an overbearing Christmas step-grandma at 9 years old .
-
Quandry
Kenny C-
"So long as he understood I was satisfied."
How wonderful that you felt that your conscience was clear. Do I take that to mean that if your boss gave you non colored eggs at easter, candy that did not have a red wrapper at Valentine's Day, and a turkey without saying Happy Thanksgiving in November, that you'd be happy to accept all of these gifts? I admire your faithfulness.
-
KennyC
When he handed me the check I actually gave it back to him. After looking surprised he scratched out the x-mas stuff and called it a "yearly bonus. God knows I deserved it more than the oh-so-eligible celebrators and drug addicts who he had to bail out of jail on more than one occasion just to get their asses back to work. Personally, I viewed it as a yearly bonus that I DESERVED, rather than the other jerks drug money. The only problem was he put "Christmas" bonus on my well-deserved bonus check. He understood, and the guy that was riding home with me said "I respected you for that."
So go figure.
-
mouthy
not doing anything the week of Christmas itself">But you can give them one the week before or after. just wrap it in pretty paper. call it alove gift. what a lot of B.s