At our Special Assembly Day, there was a visiting speaker from Bethel. Don't remember his name, but he was a humorless and austere gentleman who was very clearly a company man. He said many questionable things, especially in the way he generalized about "the world" and "worldly ones." Two things he said especially stood out to me:
Talking about the marriage relationship, he said "And regarding Eph. 5:28-33, where are people in the world going to hear it? Certainly not at their churches. No church would read the scripture I'm about to share in their services. And if any worldly person encountered this scripture in their own study, they would never get the sense of it on their own." Even my believing wife was forced to admit that this was a very stupid thing for him to say. Here's the scripture, for reference. You judge if only Witnesses are capable of understanding it, or whether churches never read it in their services.
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28 In this way husbands ought to be loving their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself, 29 for no man ever hated his own flesh; but he feeds and cherishes it, as the Christ also does the congregation, 30 because we are members of his body. 31 "For this reason a man will leave [his] father and [his] mother and he will stick to his wife, and the two will become one flesh." 32 This sacred secret is great. Now I am speaking with respect to Christ and the congregation. 33 Nevertheless, also, let each one of YOU individually so love his wife as he does himself; on the other hand, the wife should have deep respect for her husband.
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Item two was just sad. He told this whole experience about how one family planned to go to Disneyland, but at the last moment changed their minds and went to visit Brooklyn Bethel instead. Apparently all the kids loved it, were so happy they went, and had Bethel plans. The 13 year old wanted to work in the printing dept, the 10 year old wanted to work in the kitchen, and the 3 year old wanted to work in the dental office.
I am sure that all the kids present at the S.A.D. were super happy about this experience and are glad they were saved from having to go to Disneyland. Bethel is WAY more fun.
Overheard at the S.A.D.: Only Witnesses Understand Eph. 5:28-33
by under_believer 25 Replies latest jw friends
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under_believer
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Jourles
Is there going to be anything left of Bethel to tour?
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Zico
If the kids had gone to Disneyland would they have returned with dreams of playing Disney characters?
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VM44
I did a Google search for "Ephesians 5:28" and found 13,800 results returned.
So much for "where are they going to hear it" comment.
The JWs are full of themselves.
--VM44
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under_believer
Yes, VM44, that was my takeaway also. The meaning of the scripture is obvious to the most elementary reader and it's a cherished favorite among Christians.
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johnny cip
it's the jw's tht can't understand the verse. for no man ever hated his own flesh; but he feeds and cherishes it, as the Christ also does the congregation, 30 because we are members of his body. this verse says everyone that believes in christ , as in fact a part or member of the BODY OF CHRIST. or annointed . all one with christ . there are dozens of verses that say the same thing. this was a stupid verse for the bethelite to bring out , and i would have called him on it. he's clearly a spritual drunkard and a dope. john
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OnTheWayOut
Only JW's understand every scripture (according to the GB). I hope the parents are smart enough to say:
"You need to save up for retirement, instead of wasting your best years at Bethel before they
push you out the door with nothing. Besides, they never let you pick where you work at Bethel.
You want to work in a dental office, go to school."
Disney Characters would have a better future.
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Bryan
Does anyone still record the assemblies and Spescial Days?
I think these words cound be more important in teaching about the witnesses than their liturature.
Best,
Bryan
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Effervescent
It amuses me the way they presume to speak for what other churches teach and speak on. Unless they are a recent convert from another religion I have to think they wouldn't have the first clue. Or do they have some sort of espionage system where Bethelites sit in a back pew with sunglasses and a trenchcoat and a tape recorder? sheesh.
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Wasanelder Once
Look, if the kids went to Bethel instead of Disneyland, at least they'd be gauranteed to become "Goofy".
Boo, hisss...... I hear ya.
W.Once