I tell you I guess what I did was immoral. One of the reasons that I disassociated myself was so that the kids could stay home on Saturdays and watch cartoons, and I hated going out in field service.
Did u want to leave the org bcause u were doing something immoral?
by Will2Power 69 Replies latest jw friends
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chiddy
Why be a troll on a thread like this ? not very controversial is it?
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AK - Jeff
How do we assume this is the work of a troll? Just asking?
I think it an interesting question - not provacative to me. Perhaps I am too dense.
Jeff
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chiddy
he does sound a little bit like an active jw lurking though
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AuldSoul
I'm not so sure this person is a troll. The "survey" question arose innocuously enough in the body of another thread.
Oh, and welcome, Will2Power! I didn't even realize that you haven't made many posts when I read your question. I think your guess about a 50/50 ratio is pretty far off the mark.
Obviously, most who are disfellowshipped are disfellowshipped for reasons the WTS calls immorality, for which such a person MUST confess to elders and demonstrate repentance (despite the fact that the entire current investigative and judicial process has NO basis in Scripture, whatsoever). However, among those who choose to leave, I have rarely encountered any account where the person was living a double-life of immorality. It is typically that they have found out a false doctrine, or an instance of organizational hypocrisy, or a mix.
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parakeet
will2power wrote: ***Be honest now, I mean REALLY honest.***
As opposed to the "lies" we usually respond with?
Before I respond to your "survey," how about some honesty from you, will2power? If you're not a JW, let's hear your story. If you are, why are you posting on a board that's forbidden by the WTS? Be honest now. I mean REALLY honest. -
AuldSoul
Whether or not Will2Power is or is not a JW is really moot, in my opinion. If it is hypocritical to be a JW and visit this site then MOST of us at least were hypocrites at one point or another.
From Will2Power's posts, it is certain that he or she could be disfellowshipped for what they have written, if unrepentant. I saw some past-tense usage to describe certain things that make me think at least inactive if not DF'd.
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greendawn
I left because I didn't like many things in the org to begin with there was no real fraternal love and it was being run along very dictatorial lines the FDS ie the GB would only accept correction from "jehovah" in the due time. So when would God decide to correct an error? In fact it was the GB that would decide it (if ever) whenever they saw fit to correct something. That is a diabolical ideology: wait on jehovah to correct things, how pathetic.
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Liberty
Many JWs believe it is true that the most likely persons who would leave Watchtowerism are involved in some kind of "immmorality". I think logic and statistics tells us that this is a false perception since the Watchtower Society easily forgives even the most horrific of sexual sins, child molestation. Immorality is not what the Watchtower fears since most true believers beg to come back and are easily accepted back for mere "human weakness" type sins.
What is unforgivable and most strictly policed by the Watchtower is doctrinal disagreement. Those most likely to be guilty of "independant thinking" are the Society's most moral and thoughtful members who are bothered by their cognitive dissonence with Watchtower teachings which disturb their consciences and/or off balance their logic compasses. Being a drugged out alcoholic sex maniac does not entail much thinking and people involved in such things are usually in no condition to "take a stand" or "make a statement" by voluntarily leaving Watchtowerism since they are guilt-ridden and shamed and do not wish to make a scene which can forever cut them off from their family and friends. On the other hand, people who leave for intellectual reasons are exactly the type who will make a stand and are willing to give up family, friends, and comfort because they believe that real truth is more important. These folks usually never come back since they are perfectly justified and unashamed of their new found belief that the Watchtower philosophy is patently false and that the leadership has known all along that it is false.
I left as a teenager because my gut told me that what they tought just did not add up and my intensive research later proved that Watchtowerism was, in fact, wrong. I was researching the Bible and science instead of "having a good time" for years due to my Watchtower trauma. I remained a virgin until I was 29 years old, long after I ceased to be a JW and knew that their doctrines were false. Immorality of any kind was never my reason for leaving. I left because Watchtowerism is a LIE. I was able at some point long after I no longer considered myself a JW to have a fairly normal sex life with one partner when I finally overcame the Watchtower's alarmist and narrow minded concepts of sexuality which I had been brainwashed with. In fact, my "morality" was actually the last thing to go instead of the first. Since I have been with the same woman now for 15 years I am not even sure I qualify for being "immoral" by even the strictist standards since many JWs in good standing have had many more sexual partners than me due to divorce or reinstatment.
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Nowman
Initially, I left the org because of my parents. I could not take them anymore, there was something wrong with my household. I never had the want or need to go back, but I found I still had this mental JW thing going on in my head for years. I left when I was 18 so I do not think I really knew at that time what I had been apart of all those prior years, I was not interested enough to ask questions, or find my own answers, I just wanted to leave because of mom and dad. Eventually, three months later, I did commit fornication and was disfellowshipped for it, because they had no grounds to DF me in the beginning, I did not do anything immoral at 1st.
Nikki