UN Votes to Punish North Korea for Nuclear Test

by purplesofa 16 Replies latest social current

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  roybatty

  roybatty,

  I don't know you but when I read posts like yours it just makes me mad. Not that I'd want your son or my son to go off to war but rather I would want them to face their decision like a man, not a coward. They enjoy all the benefits of living in a rich nation but are then told to run and hide when their asked to do their duty.

  That comment is coming from a scared momma. They would never move away. If I could decide for them I would. But I do understand what you are saying and I apologize for my comment.

  purps

  Nah, no need to apologize. As the father of a 15 year old boy (who thinks he's a man) I know where you're coming from. Our country honors the men (and women) who make the ultimate sacrifice for their country but often forgotten are all the mothers who weep for their little boys. And on a side note, there is no way the draft will come back. It would be political suicide for any politician and impeachment for the president.
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  JH

  there is no way the draft will come back

  Wanna bet?

  You think the world wars was only something of the past?
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  Legolas

  I would want them to face their decision like a man, not a coward.

  What a stupid fuc*ing thing to say!

  I would rather a 'living' coward, then a 'dead' man who didn't run!
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  purplesofa

  there is no way the draft will come back. It would be political suicide for any politician and impeachment for the president

  Im just afraid if too much more happens we will be forced into it.

  purps
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  JeffT

  1) Can anybody name an instance where UN sanctions accomplished something? Not trying to be a jerk, I just can't think of one.

  2) There was a great cartoon in the thirties after Japan invaded China. Two guys labeled "Japan" and "China" brawling on the ground. A bunch of suits labeled "League of Nations" are looking on. One of them is saying "Desist!" to no effect. Pretty well somes up how the UN has done in my opinion.

  3) There will be no draft. It would be suicide for whoever passes it and will not accomplish anything. Modern war is way too technological, you can't train a bunch of strong young men in six weeks and send them off to war anymore.
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  read good books

  When they fill the front lines not the officers ranks, with congressman's and billinaires kids I'LL sign up and I am 52
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  purplesofa

  you can't train a bunch of strong young men in six weeks and send them off to war anymore.

  They are training our kids in 9 wks.....then AIT for a certain amount of time then off to Iraq. Alot of brand new recruits are going over right out of AIT. 18, 19,20 21 yrs old. 70% of new Army recuits are going over in less than 6mos of training. They have also lowered their standards to let people join the Army just to meet the demand.

  53% of the deaths in Iraq are under the age of 25.

  Sad new info gleaned from Brookings Institute reporting is that 52% of all US troop deaths in Iraq have been under the age of 25 years old. And 68% of all US troop deaths have been in the US Army.US troops in Iraq increased by 10,000 in November to 162,000, representing 89% of all "coalition" soldiers. http://usliberals.about.com/b/a/226181.htm

  http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/

  10/11/06 Reuters: In Iraq, contractor deaths near 650, legal fog thickens. The war in Iraq has killed at least 647 civilian contractors to date http://usliberals.about.com/od/homelandsecurit1/a/IraqNumbers.htm 2006 2,729 US Soldiers Killed, 20, 687 Wounded, 144,000 Remain in Iraq For your quick reading, I've listed key statistics about the Iraq War, taken primarily from data analyzed by various think tanks, including The Brookings Institution's Iraq Index, and from mainstream media sources. Data is presented as of October 4, 2006, except as indicated. US SPENDING IN IRAQ Spent & approved to spend in Iraq - $505 billion of US taxpayers' funds, including $70 billion more approved by Congress and signed by the President in Sept 2006 for Iraq & Afghanistan Lost & Unaccounted for in Iraq - $9 billion of US taxpayers' money and $549.7 milion in spare parts shipped in 2004 to US contractors Halliburton Overcharges Classified by the Pentagon as Unreasonable and Unsupported - $1.4 billion US AND COALITION TROOPS IN IRAQ Coalition Troops in Iraq - Total 162,000, including 144,000 from the US, 7,200 from the UK, and 10,800 from all other nations (other than Iraq) US Troop Casualities - 2,729 US troops; 98% male. Sponsored Links Wounded Warriors Their families need your help today All gave some. They gave all. www.woundedwarriors.org U.S. in Iraq? Pros & Cons Should the U.S. have attacked Iraq? Credible pros & cons in the debate www.ProCon.org Casualties in Iraq War Casualties in Iraq War War Casualties in Iraq pushbackcnn.com 90% non-officers; 77% active duty, 14% National Guard; 74% Caucasian, 10% African-American, 11% Latino. 17% killed by non-hostile causes. 53% of US casualties were under 25 years old. 68% were from the US Army Non-US Troop Casualties - Total 236, with 119 from the UK US Troops Wounded - 20,687, 20% of which are serious brain or spinal injuries (total excludes psychological injuries) US Troops with Serious Mental Health Problems 30% of US troops develop serious mental health problems within 3 to 4 months of returning home US Military Helicopters Downed in Iraq - 52 total, 27 by enemy fire IRAQI TROOPS, CIVILIANS AND OTHERS IN IRAQ Private Contractors in Iraq, Working in Support of US Army Troops - 84,105 (NOTE - The US has not updated this count for months.) Journalists killed - 77, 41 by murder and 36 by acts of war Journalists killed by US Forces - 14 Iraqi Military and Police Casualties - 5,490 Iraqi Civilians Killed, Estimated - The UN issued a report on Sept 20, 2006 stating that Iraqi civilian casualities wre signifiantly under-reported for at least July and August, 2006, and possibly longer. Casualties are estimated at 50,000 to over 100,00, but may be much higher.