Dishonorable mention

by Norm 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • Norm
    Norm

    Today to my surprise I found my name mentioned on a Cesnur site. It is authored by some John B. Brown. Anyone know who this guy is?

    http://www.cesnur.org/2006/sd_brown.htm

    There they say: "Anticult activists such as Norman Hovland allege that the Jehovah’s Witnesses leaders are or will be responsible for torture, genocide and other forms of degrading treatment.[i]"

    Quite a spin on what I have actually written about these matters. Either the guy is dishonest of dumb. JW leaders are no doubt violating human rights as freedom of speech, freedom of religion etc. They are no doubt responsible for psychical torture with their DF and shunning policy. Although they probably won't go out and physically kill anyone they do promote and fervently wait for wish and pray for a bloodbath that will make the atrocities of Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot look like a picnic. But of course they rely on their homicidal maniac god to do the real dirty work. Well, the site do contain the urls although not as clicable links so you can all see for yourself what I have actually said.

    Norm

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    Off the top of my head Brown is head-honcho at Borg Central Media Manipulation Orifice.

    He's the spokes-Borg.

  • freetosee
    freetosee

    Contact
    Rev. John B. Brown, II [Bill: Check the name to start with.]
    Hope International
    (520) 440-9816 ph
    [email protected] http://hope-international.faithweb.com/

    http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=9073

    J. R. Brown is he WT PR director: http://www.jw-media.org/region/europe/georgia/english/releases/religious_freedom/geo_e010222.htm

    fts

  • freetosee
  • Honesty
    Honesty

    Congratulations, Norm. You seem to have drawn the ire of more than a few procultists.

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    "Disfellowshipping is not “torture cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment and punishment" as some anticult activist have claimed." that is what Brown claims yet that is precisely what it is for the emotional side of the ostracised, a degrading emotional torture (at least for most people apart from the really tough natured ones) and that is what DFing is meant to achieve. Congratulations by the way you have been noticed by CESNUR an org that includes New Agers as its members. I wonder why they think cults like the JWs are so harmless and innocent.

  • DazedAndConfused
    DazedAndConfused

    John Brown lives here in Tucson. I have met him and his wife a few times. Bizarre to say the least.

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  • BrendaCloutier
    BrendaCloutier

    Congradulations, Norm, you've had impact!

  • PUC
    PUC

    I have been listening to your rants about me for two years

    1. Simon, behave in the same manner as the JWs allegedly do. Its pretty much common knowledge.

    2. Dazed and Confused, [Removed for posting violation.]

    3. Norm Havlond, If you actually consulted with a human rights attorney, you would not be so ill-informed. Here is my latest conference paper:

    http://www.cesnur.org/2008/london_brown.htm

    You people were all stupid.

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