Daughter in law a JW

by BJBixby 10 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • BJBixby
    BJBixby

    Hello,

    My son married to a young woman that was raised in th JW culture and continues to worship at a Hall. My son is a christian (Presbyterian) . When they were dating she occassionaly attended some of our holiday functions and jsut kind of dissapeared when the gifts were opened or songs sung. I'm not sure how to include since they married she doesn't attend any of our family functions linked to christian holidays. It is driving a wedge between us and our family relationships. I'm not sure what to do about it. I love her and she is very close to me but...we never talk about religion. Any suggestions on how to procede? I joined this board in hopes of having a better understanding of her beliefs.

    Thanks

  • zeroday
    zeroday
    My son married to a young woman that was raised in th JW culture

    It would appear your son was not aware of the culture of the JW's. YOU YOUR SON and anyone else in your family not a JW are condemed to die by their God. You are a member of FALSE RELIGION and your traditions are from the DEVIL acording to the JW culture. She is a member of a mind control CULT. If she is an active JW I don't know how she or her religion allowed her to marry your son. You are in for the nightmare of your life.

  • Jez
  • blondie
    blondie

    I grew up in a family with a non-JW father and a JW mother. Even if you son is not a JW, he is the huband and can make some decisions.

    Here is an article about a JW wife with a non-JW husband and the holidays. The fact that she did come at one time shows that she felt it was all right. I find it hard that this is the first you realize that JWs do not accept non-JWs in their social lives. What about the wedding? It is strongly discouraged for JWs to marry non-JWs. In fact, elders and ministerial servants, and others with appointed positions could loe them for just attending such a wedding, and certainly for marrying a non-JW. We are mostly ex-JWs here but we know what they teach. Showing love and being hospitable at other times may lead to coming to the holidays. BTW, many JWs get together and eat turkey on Thanksgiving. Blondie

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    w01 12/15 pp.28-29 Questions From Readers***

    How can a Christian wife balance loyalty to God with submission to her unbelieving husband if he shares in religious holiday activities?

    Her doing so will require wisdom and tact. But she is doing the right thing in striving to balance her two obligations. Jesus gave counsel about a parallel situation: "Pay back, therefore, Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God." (Matthew 22:21) Granted, he was dealing with obligations to governments, to which Christians were later told to be in submission. (Romans 13:1) Yet, his counsel finds a parallel in a wife’s balancing her obligations to God with her Scriptural submission to her husband, even if he is an unbeliever.

    No one familiar with the Bible would deny that it stresses that a Christian’s first obligation is to Almighty God, to be loyal to him at all times. (Acts 5:29) Still, in many situations a true worshiper can accommodate the requests or demands of an unbeliever in authority while not sharing in a violation of God’s elevated laws.

    We find an instructive example in the three Hebrews, as related in Daniel chapter 3. Their governmental superior, Nebuchadnezzar, decreed that they and others present themselves on the plain of Dura. Realizing that false worship was scheduled, the three Hebrews would likely have preferred to avoid being there. Perhaps Daniel was able to excuse himself, but these three could not. So they complied to the extent of appearing, but they would not—and did not—share in any wrong act.—Daniel 3:1-18.

    Similarly, around holiday times an unbelieving husband might request or demand that his Christian wife do something she would like to avoid. Consider some examples: He tells her to cook a certain food on the day he and others will celebrate a holiday. Or he demands that the family (including his wife) visit his relatives on that day for a meal or simply as a social call. Or even prior to the holiday, he might say that while his wife is out shopping, she must make some purchases for him—foods unique to the holiday, items to use as presents, or wrapping paper and cards to use with his gifts.

    Again, the Christian wife ought to be determined not to share in false religious acts, but what about such requests? He is the family head, and God’s Word says: "You wives, be in subjection to your husbands, as it is becoming in the Lord." (Colossians 3:18) In these cases, can she show wifely subjection while being loyal to God? She must decide how to balance obedience to her husband with her overriding obedience to Jehovah.

    At other times, her husband may ask her to cook a certain food, whether because it is his favorite or because he is used to having that meal in a particular season. She will desire to show love for him and recognition of his headship. Could she do so even if he made the request on the occasion of a holiday? Some Christian wives might be able to do so with a good conscience, simply considering it as a normal task of preparing the daily meal. Certainly, no loyal Christian would attach any holiday significance to it, even if her husband did. Similarly, he might require her to be with him when he visits his relatives at various times each month or year. Could she do so even if it was the day of a holiday? Or would she normally be willing to purchase things at his request, without judging what he intends to do with the items she buys for him while doing her shopping?

    Of course, a Christian wife should think of others—the effect on them. (Philippians 2:4) She would like to avoid giving any impression that she is linked to the holiday, just as the three Hebrews may likely have preferred that others not see them traveling to the plain of Dura. So she might tactfully try to reason with her husband to see if, out of consideration for her feelings, he might do certain holiday-related things for himself to accommodate a wife who loves and respects him. He might see the wisdom of not putting both of them in a potentially embarrassing situation if she would have to refuse to engage in false religious acts. Yes, calm discussion beforehand might lead to a peaceful solution.—Proverbs 22:3.

    In the final analysis, the faithful Christian must weigh the facts and then decide what to do. Obedience to God must come first, as it did with the three Hebrews. (1 Corinthians 10:31) But with that in mind, the individual Christian has to decide what noncompromising things can be done at the request of one having authority in the family or in the community.

    [Footnote]

    See "Questions From Readers" in TheWatchtower of August 1, 2001.

  • zeroday
    zeroday

    Your son actually has the upper hand. According to JW culture he is the HEAD of the house hold and she is sumissive to him. As long as he does not violate her so called christian principles she is bound by his headship. He just has to find a creative way around them.

  • zeroday
    zeroday

    ***

    w52 2/1p.82Jehovah’sTheocraticOrganizationToday***

    17

    Many in Christendom will angrily say Jehovah’s witnesses take too much on themselves. That is what Korah protested to Moses. (Num. 16:3) Yet the facts show Jehovah’s witnesses are the ones preaching of the Kingdom’s establishment, and warning all nations of Armageddon’s approach. Their organization is run theocratically, and it brings forth the spiritual food that is timely. What orthodox religious organization in Christendom provides new spiritual food for these critical times? Are not the fundamentalists still offering the same dry husks, still prattling the same centuries-old creeds, and monotonously repeating again and again their few basic doctrines borrowed from paganism? Truly, "their religion is a mockery, a mere tradition learned by rote." (Isa. 29:13, Mo) The modernist churches have brought forth new teachings to fit the times, but their new offerings are not fit for gospel-preaching. Instead, they scuttle the Bible, dismissing it as myth and legend, at best only good literature, and offer science and evolution, psychology and psychiatry, in an endeavor to be popular with a materialistic civilization. God bluntly says Christendom’s "tables are full of vomit". Among them spiritual famine reigns supreme. What a contrast between the condition of their followers and that of Jehovah’s witnesses!—Isa. 28:8; 65:13-15; Jer. 2:13; Amos 8:11, 12.

    This is just a little of what you are up against.
  • Clam
    Clam

    Welcome BJBixby. You've come to the right place. There's plenty of disdain, even hatred here for the JWs so be prepared for some strong stuff. You say you love your daughter-in-law and you're very close to her. That's great. I can't comment on your circumstances too much because I don't know all the facts. Having said that if her links with the Kingdom Hall H aren't that strong, then it would be good to learn from this board how to speak to her with a view to getting her out. She may be cut off by the JWs but if it comes to the crunch she's got a loving husband and in laws to count on. Take time to get to know what this board is all about, and why the JWs are such bad news.

    Clam

  • parakeet
    parakeet

    Hi, BJ. I was once in the same position as your daughter-in-law, a JW married to a nonJW. My in-laws didn't really understand why I didn't join in the holiday festivities, but they were very understanding and accepted what participation I felt I could give.

    I would suggest that if you're unsure about what she can and cannot do regarding holidays and other family traditions, just ask her without judging her. That she married a nonJW demonstrates that the JWs are not the sole focus of her life. She may soon leave the religion of her own accord, which is what I did.

    One caution. I'm not trying to frighten you, but be aware that the JWs forbid blood transfusions, even if it costs them their lives. If your son ever should be in a position in which he needs a life-saving transfusion, and your daughter-in-law is the only one present to give consent, she may refuse the transfusion, even though your son is not a JW. This is a very deeply ingrained JW belief that your son should be made aware of, if he isn't already. Good luck.

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    Always keep in mind the depth that this cult may effect your relative, which may not be simply guaged by her current attendance level at the hall. She may well seem even reasonable, but so does almost anyone if your only exposed to being next to them at a counter at a Burger shop. Serious problems can and do arise when children enter the picture - the previously marginal faithful seek to revisit their "meaning of life", taking the path that they know - but in her case, the envelope of her religious upbringing includes omition of truth, exclusivity, stonewalling, vilification, and if necessary (or simply opportunistic), viciousness - all being accepted as necessary for the satisfaction of the society.

    Exposure is an issue for you if she has alegiance to the Watchtower Society. Something that you may glean from many of the comments on this board, and that is "trust" is a major issue, as if any allegiance to the Society exists (which obviously it does) you may at any time run a poor second in her priorites, or even expendable collateral. In her religion parents abandon their children for the nod of a false promise.

    These may seem like well meaning people, but you'll notice that they aren't well meaning in the normal sense of charity, but rather, in the sense of self-perpetuation or promotion - donating all that 'charitable' time to warn you to be like them.

    My view of jwism is likely skewed but there is one thing I stick with, and that is not to be in any place where I would need to trust them - the odds aren't good.

  • moshe
    moshe

    I love her and she is very close to me --- I hope this continues when you two have normal disagreements. JW's don't do compromise very well, actually, it's their way or hit the highway.

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