Looking it up in the dictionary. (Turned around on me) How embarrassing!!

by Sparkplug 10 Replies latest jw friends

  • Sparkplug
    Sparkplug

    My son has offered to help me with my 16 year old and his education for he and I butt heads and for a bit it got too bad here and we needed a cooling time. So today I am reading the email I am sent to keep me in the loop over where things are with my son and my brother and I find an email from my son to my brother. My son is mad at this point. Read On this is highly amusing to me. It is a bit twisted mom humour.

    Hey Uncle XXXX I thought about it and you know what? I don’t think I should have to drop one of the two classes, which by the way, haven’t anything to do with each other. Especially against my own will. What does it matter if I quit band? There aren’t any other classes worth taking to replace its spot. And calc? If this is really about me not understanding the material, than what would the difference be in taking the same class, only with the company of distracting nothings making it harder to digest the material? If you really think this is about me not being to the standards, what would I care if I were to be placed in a lower grade? Honestly, I wouldn’t even feel the need to put effort into working at all. Why, I don’t think I would even work at all in a class that’s holds no challenge whatsoever. Why would I waste my time with infantile work when I could study in something worth my time? No amount of "punishing" could make me care for a meaningless final grade no matter the degree. Simply put, don’t expect any better results to come out of me from being switched into regular. I’m not working for them. If I'm switched into regular, I just might have to quit the class as a whole. It’s not required that I take the course after all. I’m only taking it to lay the foundations of my career path, nothing more. It was, after all, my decision to follow through the course at my own will. No one has the right to decide for me, only advise against.

    I’ve still got another 6 weeks before the overall semester average. If you really do care about me just passing in my calculus class, then let me make an adequate grade to make a passing final average for the semester as I am. What does it matter if I’m not excelling. Its not like ill do ant better in regular, which I wont retain knowledge or benefit from anyways, nor will I give a care to do so being at a lower standard.

    You do what you need to. Your logic must be correct after all. I shouldn’t have to decide, especially on such a nonsensical proposition. I'm not deciding.

    So my brother responds with .........................

    Allowe, this is not about “punishing” you. It’s apparent that you have too much on your plate and/or don’t care about your calculus grade as your attached spreadsheet doesn’t list any homework for calculus that’s required to be turned in, your teacher says you don’t show up for available tutoring. When we spoke at the beginning of this 6 weeks, you agreed that it would be “fair” for you to make a decision to give up either band or calculus if you were failing in calc, with the rationale being that you obviously don’t have enough resources/time and otherwise to excel or for that matter to do justice to either one. You are right that they classes have nothing to do with each other, other than the fact that they both require time and resources to do well at. As a side note, don’t blame anyone else for your 74 in band because you missed practice – it’s your responsibility as a young adult to set your alarm clock, and take the bus to get there or whatever other arrangements you’ve chosen to make. The bus is more reliable than other people as you always know when and that it will be going to school.

    Well it’s that time and you haven’t taken the initiative to do better in the class. If you would have taken the initiative and if the teacher had confirmed it, then I wouldn’t have an issue with your request and threats listed below. As far as your admissions transcript to college, a failing grade for the semester (which you are on track for) won’t be viewed as a positive. It’s much better that you drop this class and concentrate on whatever classes you decide is worth the time and effort.

    Your argument is specious.

    “If you really do care about me just passing in my calculus class, then let me make an adequate grade to make a passing final average for the semester as I am. What does it matter if I’m not excelling. Its not like ill do ant better in regular, which I wont retain knowledge or benefit from anyways, nor will I give a care to do so being at a lower standard.”

    1) I do care about your grades and success overall – not just in one class. If you cared, you would have been showing up for tutoring or asking for extra homework or would have asked Garvin for help (who has lots of math knowledge).

    2) You mention not caring about being held to a lower standard yet by your actions or rather lack thereof, it’s clear that you don’t care about any standard for this class.

    3) If you don’t understand and retain the basic knowledge being taught by XXXXX in the class, how is it that you don’t think you need to step back into a lower class so that you can understand and retain the basic knowledge that really is the foundation of everything that comes after?

    Your future is in your hands, however your mom and I (by her asking for my help) have the right to do what we think is best for you and we will. In later years you will come to love and respect us for it, especially as it is not done as a punishment or to make you feel bad about yourself, but to ensure that you have a solid foundation upon which to build your post-secondary education as well as to help you deal with similar situations in life that you may find yourself in. I’ll speak with your mom and let you know which class you’ll be dropped from, but will let you decide what class to replace it with.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meanwhile I as a mother am feeling pretty stoooooopid as I run for a dictionary on the web and lookup nonsensical proposition:

    4 results for: nonsensical

    View results from: Dictionary | Thesaurus | Encyclopedia | the Web

    Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source non?sense / 'n?nalts?ns, -s?ns / Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation [ non-sens, -suhaltns ] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
    –noun
    1.words or language having little or no sense or meaning.
    2.conduct, action, etc., that is senseless, foolish, or absurd: to have tolerated enough nonsense.
    3.impudent, insubordinate, or otherwise objectionable behavior: He doesn't have to take that nonsense from you.
    4.something absurd or fatuous: the utter nonsense of such a suggestion.
    5.anything of trifling importance or of little or no use.

    This makes me laugh my behind off as I see my son try to pull one over on my brother. Then I laughed even harder as I look up my brothers rsponse using the word "specious".

    6 results for: specious.

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    American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source
    spe·cious (spPronunciation KeyAudio pronunciation of [P]
    adj.
    1. Having the ring of truth or plausibility but actually fallacious: a specious argument.
    2. Deceptively attractive.

    Now I ask you how did this smarty pants come out of this womb? I swear my family keeps me laughing. I am glad though that my son gets the help he needs and that my brother can relate and get through to him without letting his buttons be pushed. As I keep saying, "You can't put them things back where they came from and OMG...Look what I made!"

    Do any of you ever wonder how you are to raise children when they are so... SO UNLIKE YOU (in some ways)!!

  • quixote
    quixote

    WOW ! My head hurts from reading all those big words ! LOL

    Is your brother an English Major ? There is a website I use called visual thesoraus, here's the link

    http://www.visualthesaurus.com/

    Other wise....oh the fun of being a parent ! You spend 2 years teaching them how to talk and how to walk. Then you spend the next 16 telling them to shut up and sit down.

    Quixote

  • Jez
    Jez

    Great story. Yes I have been thinking that alot lately. Esp. with my 16 year old. I have been toying with the idea that my bro-in-law says alot, namely, that the physical part of children is a part of you but their 'spirit' is from somewhere else and is implanted into the physical body.

    Of course, you can nuture or harm their spirits but they do not belong to us, just imported from some other place.

    My 16 year old is nothing like me. I look at her and wonder, where did you come from? This is not how I raised you and I don't know who you are.

    Jez

  • Good Girl or Bad Girl?
    Good Girl or Bad Girl?

    Awwww, Spark, while I can't help you with opinions and thoughts on raising children yet, I can say that your son has probably been given a better chance at making the most out of his life/education as he hasn't been raised spending all his time and energy on the "theocratic" pursuits of the Jehovah's Witnesses, like his mom was. He is probably more like you than you think.

    Besides, there isn't any shame in using the dictionary. It's quite noble actually. Those who just try to put things together using context are sorely missing out on widening their vocabularies.

  • lovelylil
    lovelylil

    them sur is sum big wordz. That was funny, Lilly

  • Navigator
    Navigator

    From the Prophet by Kahil Gibran:

    And a woman who held a babe against her bosum said, Speak to us of Children.

    And he said:

    Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.

    They come through you but not from you, and though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

    You may give them your love but not your thoughts, for they have their own thoughts.

    You may house their bodies but not their souls, for their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

    You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you.

    For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

    You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.

    The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, and he bends you with His might that his arrows may go swift and far.

    Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness; for even as He loves the arrow that flies, so He also loves the bow that is stable.

  • Sparkplug
  • Sparkplug
    Sparkplug

    Sorry I cannot figure out why this bit I wrote back to each of you will not post. at all. (any ideas?) I just keep getting an error.

  • Sparkplug
    Sparkplug

    WOW ! My head hurts from reading all those big words ! LOL

    Is your brother an English Major ? There is a website I use called visual thesoraus, here's the link

    http://www.visualthesaurus.com/

    Other wise....oh the fun of being a parent ! You spend 2 years teaching them how to talk and how to walk. Then you spend the next 16 telling them to shut up and sit down.

    Quixote

    I was looking at that sight. It is pretty interesting looking. I will mark it and while I am out of work for 6 weeks I will do some reading there. And yes there is no stopping the mouths of them critters once they start.

    that the physical part of children is a part of you but their 'spirit' is from somewhere else and is implanted into the physical body.

    Now that I could buy. I saw you are loving your daughter and it seems to me she is a bit like a different person than you for sure. Amazing to see isnt it?

    Awwww, Spark, while I can't help you with opinions and thoughts on raising children yet, I can say that your son has probably been given a better chance at making the most out of his life/education as he hasn't been raised spending all his time and energy on the "theocratic" pursuits of the Jehovah's Witnesses, like his mom was. He is probably more like you than you think.

    Besides, there isn't any shame in using the dictionary. It's quite noble actually. Those who just try to put things together using context are sorely missing out on widening their vocabularies.

    ah GGBG- He is too much like me. stubborn that is and young to boot. Some days I stay oon top of it all just out of spite. Yep he is his moms son. lol BTW...Good week? Bad Week?

    them sur is sum big wordz. That was funny, Lilly

    Lilly- you sumzed it up there!

  • Sparkplug
    Sparkplug

    From the Prophet by Kahil Gibran:

    And a woman who held a babe against her bosum said, Speak to us of Children.

    And he said:

    Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.

    They come through you but not from you, and though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

    You may give them your love but not your thoughts, for they have their own thoughts.

    You may house their bodies but not their souls, for their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

    You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you.

    For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

    You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.

    The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, and he bends you with His might that his arrows may go swift and far.

    Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness; for even as He loves the arrow that flies, so He also loves the bow that is stable.

    Navigator- I love....LOVE what you quoted for me. I am marking it for my good stuff folder. It is most excellent. Hit my thought process on the nose with that one. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

    Decki

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