Dawkins on Jehovah's Witnesses' "Creation" book

by slimboyfat 44 Replies latest jw friends

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    Has anyone read Dawkins new book The God Delusion yet? He discusses the Creation book on pages 119-121. He says that he discusses this particular tract only because it has had such a wide circulation - no fewer than 6 of which have been sent to him personally. Well I think he has at least 7 copies by now because I personally know one Witness who sent him one following his recent The Roof of All Evil? programme.

    I notice the book is ranked 4 on Amazon.com and 5 and Amazon.co.uk - interesting the Americans seem to be taking it up as much as in the UK...

    Slim

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    I've never read his writing - what's it about?

  • frogit
    frogit

    Hi slimboyfat


    I’m reading this book in fact can't put it down, I wish I could have read it 30 years ago, before I wasted most of my life believing in a myth, and wasting time at meetings, field service, assemblies and pre- meeting study, and more time wasting business the (swear word here) WTower gets you doing, ‘as if’ this is service to a god (Jehovah, non existing).


    Look at the back cover and read the remarks from Derren Brown: ‘this is my favourite book of all time. I hope that those secure and intelligent enough to see the value of questioning their beliefs will be big and strong enough to read this book. It is a heroic and life-changing work.’ Philip Pullman; ‘….It should have a place in every school library – especially … every “faith” school.’ I say (frogit); ‘What about Kingdom Hall Libraries’.


    A side note when the Creation book was released years ago, I took time to check the quotes with the sources at my local library, you know what? they where taken out of context and made no sense to me, but because I was in a mind control group (JWs), I dismissed my findings, and put faith in the (swear word here)WT, I wish Richard Dawkins had come to my attention way back then.


    I would also recommend reading the first few pages at your book shop (or even buy the book it’s worth £13.99) say Waterstone’s, (have coffee as well) by Derren Brown ‘Tricks of the Mind’, this throws more understanding too on why we humans believe in god’s, and are deceived by religion.


    Deep acceptance and faith is considered a good thing in the world, but now I say, “truth is real truth, when the facts show it to be truth, not faith which is totally blind and deceives gullible people”, like I once was.


    I recommend other books from Dawkins the Blind Watchmaker for example.


    God is a delusion, so don’t waste your life anymore following that belief. If you still believe, challenge your beliefs’ by reading this book by Richard Dawkins.


    frogit

  • nicolaou
    nicolaou

    I finished reading this book last week and would also recommend it highly. You don't have to accept Dawkins conclusions (I happen to) but it will certainly pull you up by your mental 'short and curlies' and make you think.

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    Dawkins writes about evolution, but this book is more particularly his case for atheism. Personally I think The Blind Watchmaker was Dawkins' best book. The new books is good too.

    I liked his section on so-called 'religious experieces' especially.

    I thought it was interesting that he chose to interact with Witness literature directly in the new book.

    Is there another thread on this new book I missed?

    Slim

  • ballistic
    ballistic

    The late Sir Fred Hoyle also had the Creation book and commented that his words were taken out of context and twisted in the way he was quoted in the book.

  • itsallgoodnow
    itsallgoodnow

    I just ordered the book yesterday. I'm not sure how I'm gonna like it, based on the amazon comments. They made it out to sound like an angry atheist book, and angry atheist books sometimes have a negative affect on my attitude. I prefer to be more of an apathetic atheist.

  • bernadette
    bernadette

    Hav just started reading it. if this thread is still running when I've finished I'll tell u how I feel. (Do fading jws ever lose their conscientiousness. If so how long does it take? am enjoying real research though)

  • sf
    sf
    when the Creation book was released years ago, I took time to check the quotes with the sources at my local library, you know what? they where taken out of context and made no sense to me,

    As you will soon discover about "many things Watchtower", this is par.

    But what makes it heinous is that they misrepresent secular facts in relation to it's insane and lethal no-blood policy.

    I'm glad you took the time to "make sure of all things". It can get exhaustive but it's rewarding.

    Happy trails!

    sKally

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    Thanks for the recommend - just ordered my copy

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