"Could a being create the fifty billion galaxies, each with two hundred billion stars, then rejoice in the smell of burning goat flesh?" - Ron Patterson
What's that Smell?
by FrightMare 12 Replies latest jw friends
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Farkel
: then rejoice in the smell of burning goat flesh?"
Another related question is, "why, from the very beginning has God demanded murder and roasting of his innocent dumb four-footed creatures as a tribute to Him? Why does this God enjoy murder and bloodshed so damn much? Hell, he even made sure his own Son was murdered. Murder, murder, murder, kill, kill, kill. Yep, that's the Bible God, alright.
Farkel
"When in doubt, duck!"
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sawthelight
the watchtower stinks!
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sawthelight
also it stinks to the the high heavens.
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FrightMare
You theists say that without God there is no way to explain our existence. So you are postulating the existence of an infinitely good being. This being is capable of creating the universe.
You still haven't explained why it did so.
A rational being creates something as a response to a stimulus in an attempt to better its situation. God is infinitely good. I can postulate the existence of God without the universe. God plus the universe is no better than God alone. Therefore I have trouble producing a reason for God to create the universe.
Hence the problem. A being capable of creating the universe has no reason to do so.
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siegswife
(((Hence the problem. A being capable of creating the universe has no reason to do so.)))
When God was alone, in His Own Mind, He came upon a Thought. He said His Name, which translated means:"I AM THAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE" Immediately, His Word came to life, filled with the Spirit of the Meaning of the Thought and set out to do all that the Spirit it contained proposed.
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siegswife
I should have related that the Thought was His Self Definition. What else was there for Him to relate?
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D wiltshire
SW,
How do you know this:
When God was alone, in His Own Mind, He came upon a Thought. He said His Name, which translated means:"I AM THAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE" Immediately, His Word came to life, filled with the Spirit of the Meaning of the Thought and set out to do all that the Spirit it contained proposed.
I think you speak with conviction, things you really know nothing about.
If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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siegswife
Assuming that there is a God that created everything, I came to the conclusion that there was a time BEFORE creation, when God was alone. OK? If God were alone, what could He possibly think about other than Himself? You with me so far? What could His Word, which the Bible says is the firstborn of creation AND created all things by and for itself, possibly be other than God own Name? What could God possibly speak about OR identify other than Himself? Considering that the Name of God means "I SHALL PROVE TO BE" , understanding that the "I" that shall prove to be is the same as "I AM" it makes perfect sense to me. How could God prove to be if there was nothing else to prove it to? He already knew that He IS. The Word expresses that thought, so since God's Word is True, the Word itself knews that it itself is true. Only by the act of creating could this 'Word' prove the truth that it contained in Itself.
Not only that, but during the creation process, the Bible says that God 'names' everything. Even Adam was given the job of 'naming' things. In Revelation it speaks of 'New Names'. The Bible constantly stresses the importance of 'names' and 'Gods Name' in particular. How can you say that I don't know anything about it? Aren't you making a statement about someone that you don't know anything about by saying that? How are you different than I am? -
ballistic
siegswife, I like pondering some parts of the bible like you have done, but at the end of the day, you can read too much into it.