Do JW's stay In the Organization to avoid embarassment? (page 2)

LongHairGal

Moshe:

I agree they do stay in to save face. I apologized to all my family and friends about everything and I didn't care if I looked bad. I knew it was a mistake how I treated them on the advice of the WT. I am sorry for the time I can never get back.

As far as disagreeing about something in the hall and letting people see. I did just that. Several times, I walked out of meetings because something I heard didn't sit well with me. But, I don't think anybody really noticed or cared.

LHG

garybuss

Another reason people don't want to leave a personal benefit social group like the Witness group is the members become entrenched by building themselves an infrastructure. By infrastructure, I mean they have their perihelial needs met by various group members. Their plumber is a Witness and only charges for parts, their barber is a sister who gives $5 haircuts, and their optometrist is a sister's father who doesn't charge Witness members for their exam if they buy glasses from his store.

Their auto dealer is brother Honest, their auto mechanic is a Witness who works for Witnesses at reduced rates, they buy their vitamins from sister Well, the CO's two sons mow the lawn and shovel the snow, sister Hairy's buck tooth daughter babysits, and sister Safe drives their retired mother to her doctor appointments.

Religion is the easy part of the issue. If they leave the Witnesses, they have to get a new plumber, a new barber, an optometrist, a car dealer, a mechanic, a shaman, hire a lawn service, a baby sitter, and book a chauffeur.

fullofdoubtnow

I think some do stay in because they can't bear to face the embarassment of admitting they were wrong, yet when I left my work colleagues, apart from the jw in our office, expressed admiration for the fact that I was brave enough to admit I'd been duped, and walk away from it. My mum and brother were the same, as well as being relieved. The only ones disturbed by my exit were the jws themselves.

OUTLAW

Most Jehovah`s Witness`s are too proud to admit they`re wrong..They`ve given up friends and family for the "Nutty Club"..They have fought tooth and nail to be right..They`re not interested in in truth,they need to be right...OUTLAW

moomanchu

Gary you hit the nail on the head. What's even better is if you have a business, say a handyman

business, Ohh the networking potential. Bonus if your an elder or a pioneer, "hey I would rather give my

money to them" says the lowly publisher. What witness wit a bitness gonna giv dat shit up?

Bitnes witness got it all going on. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ show me da money

Hackman

Good to hear Mosh, that you got out in one piece.

I have often wonderet why the unsatisfied people doesn't go together in a mutiny. Why don't they get rid of the oppressors and make their own Kingdom Hall (or whatever they would like to call it)? They can continue with the same beliefs in a more humane way? I also guess it will be much cheaper too.

I have never been inside, but I have often heard about the problems for persons that are kicked out. By going out as a group they can avoid all these problems. Maybe several others from the same comunity will follow later - and suddenly they have their own 'church'.

Can you tell me why this is not happening? Is it because of the informing that nobody dares to start talking about it?

moshe

Welcome, Hackman!

You asked why we don't organize our own meeting hall? Many JW's who leave are suspicious of any organized religion for awhile. They are still formulating their beliefs after they leave,too. And, it is not necessary to reinvent the wheel when it comes to religion. One can pretty much find a church or religious group that already fits their belief system without starting a new one up from scratch-- and, some ex-JWs are forever cured of needing to worship a God and attend a Church.

Hackman

Thanks Moshe

Yes, I understand that everyone might want to have religion in his own way when finally out of JW. However, as far as I understand, the problem is to say goodbye to relatives and friends and go out in the 'wicked world' completely alone.

In my country, I've often heard about youngsters who can't handle it. Therefore they need long time therapy to get rid of the Harmageddon-myth and other JW-stuff. For that reason, I would imagine that it will help a lot to go out as a group of people who can support each other in the first lonely years.

This is maybe already happening in my country. I saw a statistic that stated that twice as many are going out of JW than going in.

After a few calculations, I can see that it must be pretty expensive to be a witness. I can see a revenue close to 1 billion dollars (exactly 951,000,000 dollars last year). Divided by 6.5 million members means a revenue of 146 dollars per member with all expenses paid. All the huge buildings, all the thousands of meeting halls all over the world. It must be an enormous bill every year.

Recently JW sent out their 'treaty' here. False religion will disappear - so they say. In Denmark nearly EVERY religion has disappeared over the last 100 years. We have a 'Folkchurch' and nearly 85% of the population are members - but less than 5% are going there for the weekly services. Only 'cultural events' like namegiving of children, the half of the weddings and most of the funerals are taken place in the churches. The results is that 3 million (out of 5 million) people are ateists - but still members of the 'Folkchurch'. Strange situation - don't you think?

So I don't think that JW will harvest much here.

Hackman

Mysterious

I think a lot of them are told to wait on Jehovah as well and honestly think that if they wait long enough the views that embarass them now will be corrected or how they feel about them will change.

moshe

Hackman, thanks for the information about the young JW's in your country. It is a mistake to believe that only people who go to Church are honest and moral. It was men who developed moral codes over many, many thousands of years. Religion keeps the poor man from killing the rich man and for that reason alone, we will always have government approved religions.

Do JW's stay In the Organization to avoid embarassment?

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