Nicolau:
The Society's more permissive stance on blood fractions could kill my Mum!
by nicolaou 36 Replies latest watchtower medical
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Justitia Themis
Sorry for the double post...
She is saying 'No' to everything. All blood, all components, fractions and products. This is simply because, in the face of so much intimidating and confusing rhetoric she has retreated to a position she can understand - just say no.
Nicolau:
I feel your pain. After the Thursday night meeting, a very dear friend of mine said precisly the same thing. My friend said that she just can not understand "this stuff" and she is "afraid of sinning." ...sigh. I am increasingly suspicious that this might be the WTBTS's goal. They certainly could have presented the information in a more easy-to-understand format...perhaps a chart like JW Facts.
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garybuss
I don't blame the Witness people for being skeptical of the Society after what the Society did to the Witness people with the voting article. The Witnesses are really faced with three separate dynamics to every issue now. One, is what the Society puts in print; Two, is what the Society really wants; and Three, is . . . what does Jehovah allow?
Witnesses are taught life is cheap and death is a temporary sleep and loyalty is the real issue. The Witness people have been taught that loyalty to core doctrine is required for salvation and "no blood in any form" is a core doctrine.
The Society has trained the Witnesses for decades to have a martyr complex and a self sacrificing attitude. The other thing the Society is completely missing is the sales axiom. The sales axiom says, the confused mind always says "NO!". The Society is trying to sell the Witness people the blood medical fraction treatment idea with confusion and many Witness people are saying NO.
So, the Society comes back in a few months and presents the same confusing information again and the Witness people still say NO. Many Witness people are thinking that the Society is testing them, like they were taught was done to them with past teachings such as the predictions related to 1975.
The Society hasn't removed the confusion, they've made it worse. They currently teach that taking blood is wrong, and taking blood is okay . . . at the same time. This ain't gonna work! This is an end time group and salvation from death at God's hand is the end goal.
Two things need to be done. The Society needs to remove the current confusion so the Witness people can say "Yes!", and they need to guarantee salvation to people who take blood treatment. -
garybuss
I'll just add to my own thoughts, that the Society needs to take a hard "U" turn on the blood issue and start teaching the Witness people that Jehovah will NOT re-create them in a perfect replica body in paradise if they die from not taking blood medical treatment. They need to teach the Witness people that current "safer" blood medical treatments are a gift sent to them from Jehovah.
The Society needs to teach the Witness parents that they will be blood-guilty if they don't treat their children with modern blood treatment.
This one foot in, one foot out of the blood medical treatment doctrine just isn't gonna work. It's been 6+ years since fractions were allowed and the Society is still fighting the Witness people trying to get them to accept it and the Witness people are not accepting the fraction change as it is.
Is this blood issue a faction battlefield? Is that why the Society is teaching two conflicting and opposite doctrines at the same time? Faction "A" and faction "B" are in a tug of war? Who out there knows? -
5go
I remeber an older sister saying something on the factions. There is no grey area so the factions are suedo banned anyway. It' just no one in the R&F caught on.
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garybuss
What's "suedo banned" mean?
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SixofNine
martyrdom is easy, especially when it's so passive. Hell, at least a Muslim extremist has to actually take action to complete his or her act of martyrdom. A witness just has to sign a card, and if you get sick, simply lay there while everyone you know and love parades through the room telling you how good you are.
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5go
It is banned, but not officialy. It's grey therefore tainted hence the idea is you want to stay as clean as possible. So the R&F were supposed to get it, and stay away from grey issues. But, the R&F doesn't care about grey issues they just care about living or dying. Hence the problem it looks like they have a double standard when in reality in order to get the heat off on the BORG. They the said it is a grey issue Hence a personal choise. Thinking that the R&F would stay away from something sorta bad, and things continue as normal.
To put it simple, They tried tricking the everyone into thinking they OKed but put into word to trigger group think of the R&F into staying away from it anyway. Then it backfired in their face.
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Finally-Free
She is saying 'No' to everything. All blood, all components, fractions and products. This is simply because, in the face of so much intimidating and confusing rhetoric she has retreated to a position she can understand - just say no.
That's the same position my mother is taking. It's almost as if she prefers to be told what to do rather than have the opportunity to make an informed decision. It makes it awkward for me, as I alone have power of attouney for her personal care - my sisters have been excluded from that.
Edited to add: My mother still believes we shouldn't use fertilizers that contain blood in our gardens. Can't have that blood going into our tomato plants now, can we?
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nelly136
http://www.noblood.org/ask-professional/2861-advance-medical-directive-jehovahs-witnesses-3.html
looks like its causing a bit o confusion