Don't Quite Know What To Make of This

by XJW4EVR 39 Replies latest social family

  • Why Georgia
    Why Georgia

    Hi Xjw,

    My cousin went through something similar in California, but her jerk-x is a muslim and took the kids out of the country. I think you will have a better outcome than her though, since your X is american. My cousin has her kids back but it took a long time, and the son is completely brainwashed.

    I hope you can track her down and the kids too. Did you try contacting the kids school to see where their transcripts were forwarded to? Usually the schools won't just let you take the kids out without knowing where they are going. But California is so overburdened, they may have skipped that.

    The thing that got my cousin back her children was that the X couldn't prove that the kids were legally enrolled in school when he finally brought them back to California. Also, he wasn't taking the children for medical appointments to treat chronic health issues like asthma and allergies. That is why she got the kids back.

    I'm glad you have an attorney and you are getting help. Is it possible that something completely unrelated to you has occured with your X? For a woman to leave her home, generally means she did not feel safe being there. Could someone in her apartment building have been harrassing her and making her scared or maybe someone at work or a wacko from the internet?

    My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your children.

    Chrystal

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    Okay, XJW4EVR. You have successfully calmed me down.

    Well, now you have the number in case you feel the need to vent a mouthful of expletives into someone's empathetic ear.

    Respectfully,
    AuldSoul

  • Mary
    Mary
    My ex mother-in-law, while still a practicing J-Dub, is not a diehard. She has attended a number of Christmas, Thanksgiving & birthday parties. I am not uncomfortable with my ex living with her based on this.
    California family law does not permit a custodial parent to move in this manner. The fact, that she did this is grounds for nullification of the custody agreement, and I can demand full custody, with limited and supervised visitation rights for her. Our divorce agreement stipulates that moves outside of a 75 mile radius of either parent must be agreed to. Lancaster is about 69 miles from my current address.

    Is there any chance she moved back with her mother for just financial reasons? Even if this is the case, that is disgusting that she was so damn secretive about it........please keep us posted as this doesn't sound good at all. Do your kids have their own cell phone that you could reach them on?

  • owenfieldreams
    owenfieldreams

    here where i live, we have what's known as the parent/child relationship protection act, which basically prohibits custodial parents from taking children out of state without the consent of the non custodial parent. you may not have that kind of protection where you live, but generally the authorities frown on it and, depending on your divorce decree, you have rights as a parent. I would consult with your attorney, if you haven't already....

  • BlackSwan of Memphis
    BlackSwan of Memphis

    Thank you for filling us in. We're definitely concerned about this.

    I agree with the others that something sounds fishy. If she isn't going back to the witnesses, I can't figure why she would do this and not tell you.
    You might have mentioned this and I just missed it, have you contacted your exmother in law to find out what she knows? Do you even have a way to contact her?

    Keep us posted,

    Best wishes

  • evetteto
    evetteto

    HANG IN THERE

  • XJW4EVR
    XJW4EVR

    As of this morning, no news. I called a JW elder at the hall my ex-mother-in-law attended before she moved to Lancaster (northern L.A. county), and after explaining the purpose of my call, I asked him to relay the message to the ex-mother-in-law. He stated that he would, I have no reason to disbelieve him, since he was one of the more liberal elders in that Hall, and one that was involved in a long and protracted custody battle himself.

    Hopefully, I will get a message today.

    As a side note, I want to thank all of you for the support you have given me. While some may only view this as merely a "disscussion board" I view it as a support group in which we all help one another.

  • YoursChelbie
    YoursChelbie

    I don't know if this has been mentioned already. The basic problem here is communication. She can move in with her mom and you don't have a problem with that but she failed to give you prior notice. Does your ex wife or your children with her have cell phones? e-mail addresses? Maybe you just need to go ahead and call your ex wife's mother and demand a reason for why you were not told of the move. Without doing that, you haven't exhausted all the means to communicate with your kids. At least ask to speak with them and find out if they are Ok with adjusting to the move. Also be sure to make arrangements for the next weekend they are to stay with you. Just some thoughts.

    YC

  • XJW4EVR
    XJW4EVR

    Hi folks!

    All the stress caught up to me on Thursday, and I spent Friday & Saturday on my back with some sort of flu. However, that is not the good news.

    The good news is that on Sunday my ex called, and let me know that her and the kids are living with her mother in Lancaster. Not good, because her mother, is a practicing J-Dub, though not a strong member. Her mother has been known to attend her grandchildren's birthday parties, and my ex's Thanksgiving & Christmas parties. I picked up the phone, and upon hearing her voice, immediately began, mentally, counting backwards from ten to keep myself calm. She stated that the company she was working for was going out of business on January first, so she had found a new job in Lancaster, and decided that until she got a new place would live with her mother for a month. She said that the move was necessary because of that, and because of the rent increases she had been getting at her old apartment. She then gave me her mother's address to send the child support. That was it. No apology. No nothing for the pain and stress she put me through. For losing my weekend with the kids. Nothing.

    I talked to my son, and daughter. They are OK with the move. My son understood why the move had to be made. He's going to be 17, so I would expect that. My daughter was still upset. She's 13, and still in that early teen transition. She's down because she lost all her friends. Though she knows a couple of girls that live in her grandmother's apartment, so the transition won't be too hard. My son is going to have a more difficult time. He seldom went up to his grandmother's, unlike my daughter. SO he is going to have a real difficult time.

    Based on this I am leaning towards not going after my ex, and getting custody. I just don't want to put my kids through another trauma of having to readjust to another school, especially a school in the City of Los Angeles. They will be better off up there.

    After I finished talking to my kids, I asked to speak with their mother again. She reluctantly came to the phone. I told her, in no uncertain terms, that I had every right to petition the court to have her custody rights pulled, but that I has not going to put the kids through another trauma. I told her that she will have to bring the kids down to my office at 5:30 (I am scheduled to have the kids this week). She said that she couldn't because of her work, but that she'll send them down on the commuter train. I wasn't jazzed with it, but they have traveled on it before, and know the ropes.

    I then told her that if she does anything out of line with my visitation. If I hear that the kids are being pressured to go to meetings. If I hear that Elders are coming up to visit her mother, I will petition the court for custody. I told her that the events of the past couple of weeks are on file with the court (my attorney suggested that I do this). I told her in no uncertain terms that if this were to happen again, I would have no problem with having her arrested on kidnapping charges.

    Thank you all for your thoughts and prayers. I really appreciate them. One good thing. A good friend of mine is a rehabilitation home director, and some of the men in the home are working for Honeybaked Ham (those of your in California know of what I speak). As part of their compensation they have been given a bunch of hams, and he gave one to us. It is going to be a very merry Christmas, indeed! I have my kids, and I will be cooking ham with all the fixings for Christmas Eve dinner (I take the kids back to Lancaster on Christmas morning).

  • BlackSwan of Memphis
    BlackSwan of Memphis

    I'm sooooo glad you finally heard from her.

    While I definitely can see why you aren't going to go after her legally, good move in standing up to her about the matter and not completely letting it go.

    She is quite lucky, another man might not have done things quite like that.

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