MooManchu
<br><br>Read what I wrote very carefully.
<br><br>I didn't say Michael BECAME an egg. I said his life force was transferred to the egg. If I was God, I would have done it one way. If you were God, you would do it another. Your speculation doesnt' really change the situation.
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"Another body?" Scripture?
Was Jesus Resurrected Twice
by moomanchu 24 Replies latest watchtower bible
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MadTiger
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gumby
Mad Tiger, that was a typical fundie answer you just made.
it really doesn't make logical sense to compare the
archangel's power and recorded feats to a lesser angels powerSo your saying there are angels that are less in power than a 150 lb. man? Tell me, which type of angel couldn't outwrestle a man? A Cherub, a Seraph.....which type Mad Tiger. I remember of an angel that took care of 180,000 humans in one night, but your saying there is a type of one of gods angels that couldn't whip Jacob? Again, which TYPE of angel is this weak?
Gumby
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MadTiger
For your line of reasoning to be correct, you would have to prove an ABSOLUTE minimum level of power that an angel possess while in materialized form.
For MY line of reasoning to be correct, all I have to demonstrate is that there are angels of different levels of power. Oh, wait. YOU already did that for me, by
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gumby
Forget all the bullshit. Your telling me that the angel of the lord got his ass kicked by a mere human......period!
Seems to me the almighty wouldn't have made any angel that when it materialized, it couldn't whip a man. Even the Nephilim which were half angel and half men were powerful monsters, and yet Jacob beat up a full blooded materialized angel.......what a joke.
Gumby
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MadTiger
I used logic, rhetoric, etc.
You used "I think" and "seems to me"
My last statement still stand: you helped me prove my point. There are angels of varying power. You brought up several ranks of them. Thanks.
(Also implicit in your argument about the Jacob vs. angel match was the assumption that the angel was instructed to contend at his FULL capability. That is found no where in any scripture. -
moomanchu
Then later, he cast aside his fleshly body,
What your saying I think is Jesus was resurrected as physical man then transformed as a spiritual being?
So his body died again ?
Why can't he have his body and his spirit and use which ever one suits him at the time?
the LIFE FORCE of Michael was TRANSFERRED to the egg inside his earthly mother Mary. I didn't say Michael BECAME an egg. I said his life force was transferred to the egg.
What's the difference?
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MadTiger
MooManchu,
Anyone reading this besides us three (you, Gumby, and I) can see how this is going.
I am not going to answer any more, because the main points have been made, and this is past silly. (Remember my post about the fleshly body leaving at escape velocity? That was the hint.)
Your questions are the equivalent of "Did Jesus have the same size penis when he was resurrected? Since he was in a slightly different body, wouldn't it stand to reason that he might have a better penis?"
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moomanchu
Madtiger,
Alright since you took your ball and went home I'm not going to play nice either.
Anyone reading this besides us three (you, Gumby, and I) can see how this is going.
Since you can see the future maybe you should see if the GB is hiring I hear they need some good prophets.
I am not going to answer any more, because the main points have been made, and this is past silly. (Remember my post about the fleshly body leaving at escape velocity? That was the hint.)Wow, in a matter of what 15 or so posts we covered all the bases on the resurrection of Jesus. Stupid religons have been discussing this for two thousand years and can't agree 100%. (plus we figured out the Jacob angel fight thing btw gumby the angel did give him a nasty limp so I read)
your questions are the equivalent of "Did Jesus have the same size penis when he was resurrected? Since he was in a slightly different body, wouldn't it stand to reason that he might have a better penis?"Your questions are really dumb too naaah nah nah naah naaaaah.(plus I don't know what the hell your talking about)
That was fun
goodnight
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gumby
(Also implicit in your argument about the Jacob vs. angel match was the assumption that the angel was instructed to contend at his FULL capability. That is found no where in any scripture.
It's not found in the scripture that Jacob took a dump before the great battle either.....so I guess Jacob never pooped. How ridiculous.
You make a statement like that and yet you (assume) Jesus shed his body and turned into a spirit.....yet that idea is nowhere in the scripture.
Try using your own logic then come and talk with the big boys.
Gumbigboy
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gumby
Michael never died unless you can prove it from the bible
Your an ass too.
Jesus didn't use soap...unless you can prove it from the bible.
Paul didn't touch his dinger when he went pee.....unless you can prove it in the bible.
Gumby