Computer Repair Fraud!!!

by What-A-Coincidence 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • Little Drummer Boy
    Little Drummer Boy

    I should have watched the video first, because I would have put this in the first post.

    Is there computer fraud in the world? Sure. A few of the shops were stupid about it, and one outright tried to rip off the customer - I'm talking about the last guy there. The Best Buy kid was just being stupid, the last guy was trying to defraud the customer.

    I do feel that that video was unfair however. The other shops were simply charging their basic repair rates. Just like with a mechanic, a plumber, an electrician, HVAC repair, whatever, there is always a minimum shop rate. None of the hourly repair rates were out of line. And, ofcourse, oh gee golly wiz, as the narrator states all somebody had to do was push the IDE cable back in...the problem is always simple - once you know what it is. All of those shops would have had customer data entry to deal with (to setup the invoice), They would have needed to at the very least get it on the bench and wire it to a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and power to see what is happening (got to confirm that, yes, as the customer says, it isn't starting up). They do have a right to try to make a profit on their businesses. There was one altruistic soul who fixed it for free. He is doing that for the sole purpose of trying to attract future business from the customer. Not a bad strategy in this case, but it shouldn't be something the customer should expect. And remember your Business 101 class here - nothing is ever free - there is no such thing as a free lunch. But you might say, "shouldn't they have just popped open the case and found the problem real quick?" No. That isn't the proper diagnostic procedure. The diagnosing starts by trying to confirm the stated problem of "It just won't start up". Ya can't put the cart before the horse.

    In this case, pretty easy...error message clearly shown on the monitor. Pop the case open, and plug the IDE back in. Restart machine and make sure the problem is fixed. All done right? No. Why is the cable unplugged? Techie has to scratch his head for a while and ponder how a computer that was working fine now magically has an IDE cable pulled and neatly tucked out of the way. These things don't just fall off. They have to be pulled off. Maybe it was being pulled because of a routing problem? Hmmmm. That doen't seem to be it (clock is ticking btw). Hmmmm...But wouldn't the customer have told me they were jacking around inside the thing? Oh, right I'm supposed to automatically consider that the customer is being an ass and purposefully screwed up the machine just to make me look bad on a hidden camera so that they can say I charge too much for my services which I have honed over 20 years.

    Let me tell you the old story which illustrates the point.

    A guy's furnace stops working and he calls the furnace repair man. The repair man spends a couple of minutes, puts in one new screw, and hands the home owner an invoice for $80. Now the guy is mad. "Hey, all you did was put in a screw. I could have done that! How come you gave me a bill for $80?" "Simple", responds the repairman. "70 cents for the screw, and $79.30 for knowing where to put it".

    I have paid an enourmous amount of money for my education. I have spent an enourmous amount of time in research and in honing my computer repair skills at every opportunity. I don;t feel at all bad when I charge somebody for work. And I always have a minimum charge. Unless it's my Mom.

    So yes, it was sad that a few of those repair places didn't do the right thing. However, with the exception of the guy who did free work, the vidoe basically demonized all of the shops - just for charging their repair rates. One other guy stands out, he talked about jumper settings being set wrong. I could take that a few ways. He might have been just "fluffing" up what he did so that the bill wouldn't seem so harsh - it would have been the same minimum charge either way. Or, he might actually have felt that the hard drive jumper was not set how it should be and changed it. He might have changed it from cable selct to master, because of a personal preference. His charge was still fair either way.

    LDB

  • exwitless
    exwitless

    Yeah, yeah, so some people might have been a little crooked. You could do the exact same story on a car repair, or an appliance repair, or whatever, and this is bound to happen. It's not right, but it happens. Of course "all they had to do was plug in a cable..." and then charged their minimum fee. They have every right to charge a fee for taking their time to look at your computer and use their knowledge to diagnose it. There's a reason why many people have to pay someone else to fix their computers- it's because they (the computer owners) don't have the skill or knowledge to do it themselves. As a smart consumer, you would want to call ahead to any PC repair shop and ASK what their minimum fees are, and what the hourly rate is, etc.

    Hello, people, "fee for service" transactions happen every day. It's easy to say, "well that was such an easy fix, they shouldn't even charge for that", when you didn't have to go to college to do PC repair, and you don't have to pay rent for your store, or pay your employees, or pay the utilities, or pay for business insurance. There is so much more to having any kind of service business. The people providing the service do not pocket anywhere near all of the money the business collects. Sheesh!!!

    (again, I am in no way endorsing the careless or crooked business techniques; I'm just saying that even though it was a simple repair, they were all justified in charging whatever their minimum fee is.)

  • Fisherman
    Fisherman

    THings that go wrong with computers:

    1 spyware

    2 viruses

    3 hard drive defects

    5 power supply burns

    6 on off switch wears

    7 slot card goes bad, video card

    8 ram goes bad

    9 dvd or cd rom goes bad

    Mostly, Spyware problems affecting speed and internet and operating system and hard drive goes bad.

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    I have to say that I have had two experiences with repair shops.

    The first was with a shop that I had bought a modem from. I was having a heck of a time figuring out how to install it. (my first attempt at opening the case to actualy do something and this was before P&P)

    So I went back to the shop and asked what I was doing. He took me behind the counter and over to one of the tables. He opened up a case and showed me exactly what to do. I went home and got it installed and working.

    I bet the guys in the shop teased him when I showed up with a carnation to thank him.

    The second shop also helped me a lot. The also took me in the back and showed me piles of old computers they were trying to fix and sell - take a piece from one and mix and match until you had a full computer. They even offered me free training if I came in once a week to build computers. They would get a free worker one afternoon a week and I would get some training. I would have done it too but I moved out of the city.

    Oh there is one more I forgot. One place where I was working had a problem with their computer that wasn`t easily diagnosed. I called around and found an out-of-the-way shop that told me to bring it in. They took a quick look and popped in a new battery - no charge

    These fellows all worked in little shops cluttered with old machines they used for replacements parts. Any one who went there knew they weren`t getting new so people weren`t being cheated. But a lot of older machines still needed repair parts and it was unlikely they could still be found except in discarded machines.

    These guys were good at what they did and deserved to be paid for the work. So as much as I say I won`t pay for what I can do myself - if I can`t do it I know there are great people out there who do decent work

  • XBEHERE
    XBEHERE

    PC hardware is one of the easiest things for a basic A+ Technician to diagnose and fix plus cost of parts but software and OS problems is where they can milk you. If you have a business and a LAN then the cost just doubled for an enginner to come to just look at it for you. Thats just how the business is, yes that last guy was trying to cheat that customer but like other posters said the other places were just charging their flat rates or incompetent. Kind of like a doctor, I pay a $15 co-payment to go see him for 5 minutes and get a prescription. God knows how much my companies health unsurance is billed for 5 minutes. Or a plumber.....I once paid $75 for a guy to come and remove my toilet off the wax ring to take out a toy my daughter flushed and it took him all of 30 min. After watching him I could have easily done it myself but I figured I have the money so why bother. Either pay or learn to do the work yourself...

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