What if you refused to be disfellowshipped? (page 2)

karnage

Wow! They would call the cops on you?! That is a real Christian thing to do! I'm sure that would send a real nice image to those in attendance at the meeting. Can't imagine what I would think if I were in attendance for the first time and I saw something like that happening.

jayhawk1

In the JW mind, they would believe you had a demon in you. As already said, it would reinforce the belief that people who leave Jehovah (Watchtower) become inspired by Satan. Doing that would be more harmful than good.

Also, yes it is the christian thing to do by calling the cops. As Christians they have a right to meet. Granted they are Cult Christians, but Christians all the same. Disturbing their right to meet in peace is a violation of their rights and they should call the police.

Living a productive life and saying "Hello" to them in public places is about the most anoying thing you can do. And it shows them you are not inspired by Satan, but merely just don't believe in the Watchtower anymore. That does more good than harm.

avidbiblereader

As Blondie put it is the way it would happen, I have seen it, CAN'T FIGHT CITY HALL theory.

OnTheWayOut

I agree with jayhawk1 on almost every point. The one I have a big problem with is that
"they should call the police."

They should not shun a doubter or sinner. They should find a way to help him.
If such an individual raises his hand and says hello before and after the meeting, they
should say hello, and just not call on him for an answer.

But, I am getting picky. They DO shun this person. I say "Never let them change who
you are." By that I mean to agree with jayhawk1 again. Say hello on the street. If you
have family that shuns you, send them a card or letter every now and then to let them
know what's up in your life. They might read it and deny it. The JW on the street
will have to realize how silly it is to ignore you because you disagreed with the religion
that he is having difficulty with.

JH

I resigned as an elder in 94 so this may not be up to date information but at that time the instructions from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society was, ask them to leave if they don’t call the police.

And they call that religious freedom?

I'd call the cops and sue their butts for denying me relious freedom...

jayhawk1

They should not shun a doubter or sinner.

Onthewayout,

Agreed! They should not do such a despicable thing, but they do. It's their rules, their property and their right to throw out anybody they don't want in their Cult. So based on their rights to assemble in peace, they should go ahead and ask anyone who is disruptive to leave. If that person does not leave, they should call the police.

I just wish they would get rid of the shunning policy. It is harmful and stupid.

Doubting Bro

I just wish they would get rid of the shunning policy. It is harmful and stupid.

Agreed but that's the hammer they use to keep people in. Drop the shunning and I'm willing to bet you'd see a huge decrease in the numbers. I'd DA tomorrow if it wasn't for the shunning policy.

OnTheWayOut

Still, if you gave up on the active members of a congregation, and did this as often as you could,
their visitors would ask "What's up? Why is he like that? Why do you all throw him out?"

Also, except for the hardcore JW's, many would be discouraged by the event. It
would really hurt the congregation's growth and attendance. BUT IT WOULD ALSO
CONVINCE THE FLOCK THAT YOU HAVE A DEMON.

jayhawk1

(None of the following would apply to other countries as each country has its own laws. But for the sake of discussion, lets say the above senerio happened in the United States.)

Looks like the conversation has steered toward the freedom to practice religion. The Untited States First Ammendment says...

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

As already said, it is their right to meet, believe what they want (including the shunning policy) and practice however they wish as long as no laws are violated. Going in and acting like a jackass infringes on their right to assemble peaceably. They should call the cops, because their rights have been violated under this senerio.

I'd call the cops and sue their butts for denying me relious freedom...

As a person you have the right to believe whatever you wish. The First Ammendment guarantees that too. Jehovah's Witness don't have the right to take that away from you. And again under this senerio, they have not done this.

(I am not trying to start a war here, I'm just sharing an opinion I've held for years.)

Lady Liberty

I agree with everyone else here, they would definately quicky escort you out the door! And am positive, they would call the cops on you if that didn't work....

Septic system idea, well... may be a bit 'stinky", ha ha ha

However....

They couldn't stop you from taking out a ad in the local paper!!! Example.."Are the local JWs REALLY telling you the whole truth?? Then state something brief like..why can a JW take fractions that are taken from YOUR donated blood, but they will refuse to donate blood for you and your children?? Then say.. for more information check out Freeminds...or JW discussion.

Good idea right??

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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