Here is the deal. I need some referances from the Watchtower publications index, the 1930-1960 version or the 1930-1985 version. I'm looking for the referances that fall under the heading 'Kingdom's Establishment - advance announcement'
These are quotes where the Watchtower lies about how they 'preached' far in advance about the Kingdom that was coming in 1914, even though they taught at the time it had allready begun in 1878 according to their books.
The CD Rom does not have this. A scan of the page would be so wonderful if anybody has it. Thanks!
Need help quick! Anybody have a publications index?????
by drew sagan 12 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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drew sagan
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compound complex
Hi Drew...
Do you need info from INDEX only? Have Gruss' JWS Prophetic Speculation on hand RE: tons of quotes from earliest pubs. Want some quotes from OLD WTs? CoCo
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compound complex
More.........Man's Salvation Out of World's Distress Near at Hand!...........
"Furthermore, the remnant of Spiritual Israel had for decades, yes, since the year 1876, been looking forward to the ending of the Times of the Gentiles in the autumn of 1914. They were expecting God's Messianic kingdom to be FULLY ESTABLISHED IN THE HEAVENS by then and also for the remnant of spiritual Israel to be glorified with Jesus Christ in the heavenly kingdom at that time."
MORE on the way if you want???????????? CoCo
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compound complex
THY KINGDOM COME, by CTR, 1891, p. 234 ----
"The year 1878 being thus indicated as the date when the Lord began to take upon himself his great power, it is reasonable to conclude that THERE THE SETTING UP OF THE KINGDOM BEGAN...."
THE BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON, ibid., 1897, p. 621 ----
"Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874 A.D., ... and THE FORMAL INAUGURATION OF HIS KINGLY OFFICE DATES FROM APRIL 1878 A.D...."
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES: Their Claims, Doctrinal Changes, and Prophetic Speculation. What Does The Record Show?, by Edmond C. Gruss
Drew....sorry if I missed your point...was your concern the above proof of actual dates or proving that the Society is deliberately making erasures?...It's late and ...zzzzzzzzz
CoCo
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drew sagan
These referances from the later index (1930-1980's) will provide places in which the Watchtower has lied about what it preached pre 1914. They try and make it sound like they fortold 1914 as the year Christ would set up his kingdom, but at the same time didn't believe this until a full decade later.
I've got a number of quotes from the 50's-90's, but there are more in the index under that topic. I can look up all the referances myself, it's just that I don't have a hard copy of the index and it's not on the cd rom. -
blondie
Here are the references from the index. I have all but the 1960 Awakes and the 1940 WTs. If you have a hard copy of these books and the time to look them up and post the quote to help Drew, please do. I won't have much time this week.
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dx30-851914***advance announcement
fm (Then is Finished the Mystery) 310-11;
kd (What has God’s Kingdom been Doing since 1914?) 12;
g63 5/8 7;
ns (Let your name be sanctified) 305;
sw (Security during the war of the great day of God Almighty) 21;
jp (Jehovah’s Witnesses in the Divine Purpose) 19, 47;
mn (Look I am Making All Things New) 23-4;
pa (From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained) 170;
yw (Your Will be Done on Earth) 268;
gr (God’s Kingdom Rules) 21;
g56 3/8 7
qm55 (Qualified to be Ministers—1955) 300, 309-11;
nh (New Heavens and a New Earth) 206-7;
ki (The Kingdom is at Hand) 310;
w43 214-15;
tf (The Truth Shall Make You Free) 332;
w40 232
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drew sagan
Thanks Blondie! I'll get what I can up on the board in a little while.
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Lady Liberty
Dear Drew,
Check out this site. It may have what you are looking for. There is a ton of scanned hard to find literature and links here.
http://www.catholic-forum.com/members/popestleo/jwhistory.html
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
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Alwayshere
"Look! I'm making all things new" brosure on page 23' paragraph 46 says"For some 35 years prior to 1914, the Watchtower has been calling attention to 1914 as a marked year in Bible prophecy." That would have been in 1879. Watchtower 7/15/1894 says"1914 is God's date not ours,it is not the beginning but the end." So what they preached was the end would come in 1914 and not that 1914 would be a marked year in Bible prophecy. Another lie.
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Atlantis
From Blondie's list.
Then Is Finished The Mystery of God/pp.-310-311 http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?126fs3711985.jpg http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?126fs3712443.jpg ************************************************************ Awake-1963-May-8-p.7 http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?126fs3714659.jpg ************************************************************ Let Your Name Be Sanctified/p.305 http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?126fs3715818.jpg ************************************************************ Jehovah's Witnesses in The Divine Purpose/pp. 19 and 47 http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?126fs3716866.jpg http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?126fs3716986.jpg ******************************************************************* Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained/p.170 http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?126fs3717939.jpg ******************************************************************* Your Will Be Done on Earth/p.268 http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?126fs3718560.jpg ******************************************************************* New Heavens and a New Earth/pp.206-207 http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?126fs3720938.jpg http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?126fs3721388.jpg *********************************************************** The Kingdom Is At Hand/p.310 http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?126fs3721774.jpg *********************************************************** The Truth Shall Make You Free/p.332 http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?126fs3722359.jpg ************************************************************ Watchtower-1943-pp.214-215 http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?126fs3723635.jpg http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?126fs3724526.jpg ******************************************************** Watchtower-1940-p.232 http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?126fs3725718.jpg Cheers! Atlantis-