would you all consider this a serious threat???? (page 5)

BlackSwan of Memphis

It may not be a direct death threat, but it is unacceptably over the top.

Yes it is over the top.

No it is not a death threat.

We all know the jw lingo. She is not threatening their lives. She is telling them they are going to die at Armageddon. She is trying to scare her brother back in.

So, if they are putting up Christmas decorations and they don't mind being seen with that, why can't they just end it all by being up front with her and telling her in no uncertain terms that they - He- is not returning and to stop doing what she is doing?

Scully

No it is not a death threat.
We all know the jw lingo. She is not threatening their lives. She is telling them they are going to die at Armageddon. She is trying to scare her brother back in.

Yes, we do know JW lingo, but that doesn't make it acceptable to say things like that. The police who go and confront her about it and the judge considering a request for a restraining order against her will not see it in the same light as those who know JW lingo. At the very least this is hate mail, and proof of stalking.

Last time I checked, the Bible said nothing about her or anyone else having authority to judge who is going to die at Armageddon and who will live. She is out of line on so many levels, it isn't funny.

BlackSwan of Memphis

Yes, we do know JW lingo, but that doesn't make it acceptable to say things like that.

Scully, I have Not said it was or is acceptable. I think though, before heading off to the police that the person she is actually sending these letters to (her brother) should confront her and tell her to stop. And possibly be up front about things to make certain she knows he means absolute business.

Madame Quixote

Let professionals handle this. Law enforcement officers and the USPS are better equipped to enforce the law and to let the offender know you're serious about it; and that you aren't willing to tolerate such invasive, threatening actions from her.

Most JWs may think the way she thinks, but only real whackos with impulse control issues actually act the way she has acted. She has definitely made provocative and threatening statements and has done so by illegal means. Because of this, I feel concerned that the original poster has not yet responded here; I hope that you are alright.

Hortensia

Right away order the book "The Gift of Fear" from amazon.com and sit down and read it right through. The author is in the profession of protecting people against crazy and dangerous people like the one you are dealing with. I highly recommend this book to everyone - it is from an expert who deals with this all the time. From the book you will learn that you should (1) definitely and clearly tell her to stop sending you anything and to stay away from you. You do not want to communicate with her. (2) keep everything she sends you, and if you show the police, give them copies if possible and keep the originals yourself. (3) from now on do not respond to any attempts at contact. Don't go to the elders, don't go to the family, don't respond no matter how provocative she is, change your phone number and don't give it to her. Tell the police you are being spied upon and receiving hate mail and you are afraid. Every time she gets any kind of response, whether directly from you or through others, it feeds her hate and satisfies her. If she gets no response at all, eventually she'll go be crazy with someone else.

OUTLAW

I am sometimes hired to handle tough situations..I give you this advise,for free:.."Call the Police!".."Now!"..Next time I will send you a bill...OUTLAW

JWdaughter

Go to police for protection, and the elders for some retribution. That person is whacked out. First the police. The woman is crazy.

annalice

I will be calling my lawyer today to ask about how to proceed with this and my husband has written a letter to his sister telling her how it is and to stop at once with sending us things. I would have prefered that he go down to their home and let her have it but the thing is with that whole family they are VERY nonconfrontational. That is why she never calls here or actually stops by to talk to us . My husband is trying to hang on to the last thread of his entire familys conection with him. However I dont see that happening. I am fortunate in that the rest of my extended family are all non witnesses but he will have no one from his extended family after this. For that I am truely sorry for him. He feels that he will be starting a war with them . I Feel that the war has already been started and that we are the ones on the defense now . All we want is to be left alone and allowed to live our lives the way that we want and that includes celebrating holidays and letting our children think for themselves. The thing is , is that they treat us like we are disfellowshipped. We are still the same people we have not turned to a life of drugs and drinking and satan worship. But I guess when you are as brainwashed as they are you just cant believe that people who leave the orginization are still just good nice people who only want to live a life different from the witnesses. So I guess we wait and see what is going to happen now. I am just trying to keep calm, My doctor told me yesterday that my blood pressure was way up there, so I am keeping as calm as I can. I dont need any pregnancy complications right now to add to these other problems. Thank you all for your advice. I'll keep you all posted on what happens. I have to go pack away my christmas ornaments now . We really had a wonderful Christmas with our son.

nelly136

am glad you're getting legal advice, you and your childrens safety comes higher in priority than the well being of some nutter (relative or not) sending stuff like that.

hope you're not over doing it, you need to take things easy as you can if your blood pressures up.

jgnat

I am glad your husband has stepped up to the plate. Things will get better now.

would you all consider this a serious threat????

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