You asked:
Do you find it as equally disgusting, as a president that sends poor american citizens to thier early grave fighting a war under false pretenses, not to mention the tremendous loss of life of innocent Iraqis? Just wondering?
To which I asked for clarification with:
Do you find it disgusting that many Presidents have sent a number of good Americans to their early death in any wars? Or is it just this one that you have a problem with?
You responded with:
I don't find it disgusting, but unfortunate. We have been indoctrinated to believe that which ever government we live under that, that government is right in what ever wars they have fought. This type of indoctrination, starts from, at the latest when one as a very young person enters the education system of what ever country. This type of indoctrination serves the powers that be. Some wars maybe more justified than other I don't doubt, the vietnam war with it's forced draft of our young men was not the actions of a government that is protecting the rights of our young people and thier freedoms to choose whether or not to go and fight in a foreign country, so fighting for the cause of freedom can only be used as a worthless clique in that war just as much as the present war. I hope that answers your question to me.
Earnestly awaiting your answer to my question.
As always I encourage that we question authority, and not blindly "follow leaders and watch your parking meters" as Bob Dylan once sang.
One man's indoctrination, is another man's patriotic education. I don't mean to be glib, but it is all a matter of your view. I do not view war as moral. I think it is highly immoral to kill another man. However, that being said, there are just causes for war. One of them is to protect another country from invasion, as in the First Gulf War, the Korean War, and even the Vietnam War (though I believe that it turned into an unjust war). I also think that unseating a despotic tyrant that had, according to every other Intelligence agency worth its salt, WMD, and had shown a willingnes to use it (as Hussein did on the Kurds) is a just reason for war. I do not think that a war in which a murderous tyrant was dethroned, and eventually hanged because of his crimes against humantiy is disgusting. What I think is disgusting is the incompetence that the current administration has shown in prosecuting this war.
You mention the draft, and Vietnam, well I don't neccessarily think the draft is wrong. I think granting deferments is. The draft has been around since at least the Civil War (based on my research that only goes back that far). Even then the children of the rich were getting poor Irish immigrants fresh off the boat to stand in for them. This led to one of the worst riots in New York City history, and was dramatizied in the film Gangs of New York. I think the Vietnam War was different, in that the spoiled baby boomers, who were indulged by parents that had suffered through the Great Depression and made tremendous sacrifices during World War 2, had no appreciation of the cost in blood, sweat and tears, that their parents paid in order for them to have the life they wanted. As with most spoiled children, they rebelled when they were asked to sacrifice for something bigger than themselves, namely the freedom of a small country in southeast Asia. However, I digress. So back to the topic at hand.
No, I do not think it is disgusting, because I do ot believe that all the Intelligence was bad. Was the Intelligence misread or misinterpretted? Perhaps, but that does not make the President a liar, any more than a stockbroker that reads charts, and makes a recommendation based on those readings, yet the stock plunges in value. He is guilty of poor interpretation, not theft. I believe that people need to make up their own mind as to whether or not they will support this country in times of great peril. They need to make the determination between a just and unjust war. But this is not the purpose of you post. Your purpose seemed to be to pimp the simulated assassination of a sitting President. This I believe is something that is deplorable and disgusting. However, based on your answer to my clarifying question, the fact that you approve of this sort of deplorable act is somehow not suprising.
I have said my peace on this matter. Good day.
