My Bethel Experience part 4

by new boy 26 Replies latest jw friends

  • new boy
    new boy

    Black Thursday September 1972

    Knorr gathered all the bethel "Heavies" and GB to the KH in the 119 building. The Three Freds (circuit overseers).............and about 50 brothers.....thats right only 50. The other guys chickened out, they knew it was going to be a blood bath. I was there with 7 others from the Launrdy..............

    It started out with Dan Smoally (not even 30 years old and partaking) telling about what Max Larson (head of the whole factory) told him "there was NO WAY he was one of the ANOINTED!" Max at the time was a member of the great crowd...........I mean how could God pick him, some kid? When Max was there at Gods house for over 40 years?......Sometimes I wonder how God picks those anointed guys anyway, God can be strange sometimes.

    Well the stories.....................kept flowing............They were shaking the pillars of the the organization! Knorr got MADER and MADER...........he would have loved to have killed us all, if could have! Everyone knew these men were above the law. How dare we........Where the hell is JEHU, when you need him?

    As Knorr was ranting.................all of a sudden Fred Franz stood up and said "These men are appointed to there poistions of (power) responsibility NOT because of their spiritual qualifications. BUT because of their secular abilities!".....................The room was silent.

    Knorr said "we will LOOK into these matters".......................END OF MEETING.

    Sooooooooooooo............................What happened? There was ONE commitee meeting. It was with my Laundry overseer.......They gave him a slap on the hand..He was moved out of the Laundry.......and by the time I left Bethel 2 years later, was promoted.......to where else, the Bethel office! He was "a company man" and "company men" always take care of there own......Just look a the elders in any KH.

    They didn't kick the 3 Freds out (bad publicity and we know how the "brothers" hate publicty)..........instead they just make their lifes living hell...........They even put Fred Barnes (in his 50's) on a "gather" a machine that even 19 year olds have a problem staying up with............He had a heart attack.......they were kind enought to take him off it.

    The rest of us "Laundry boys"..........we were screwed .....We had done the unforgivable, by binging up wrong doings of bethel overseers...Our Bethel careers were over.....there was only one thing left to do, serve our time and get out.

    I was sent to the bindry........It made the Laundry look like haven. They put me on a sewing machine. It was the night shift. A sewing machine, is a machine were you sit and sew signatures together in a flipping motion that you do 40,000-50,000 a day. After three months, I was put on a bindry line were you would stand, all day between 2 machines. You would take the book out of the "rounder" and put in the "back liner"----16,000 to 17,000 times a day. If you begged your line overseer .......he might give you a 10 min. break to go to the bathroom every four hours. They could have bought a machine to do the same thing but it only cost them $22 a month for a warm body to do the job...........The saying was "there is no shaft at bethel, every job is a privilege of service".......I don't care if you pee on me, but don't call in WATER!

    One time a army general come through on a tour of the factory.........He was shaking his head. The tour guide said "I'm sure you could get your troops to do the same thing"..........He said " Are you kidding.. No way"

    Sunday part 5

  • candidlynuts
    candidlynuts

    ah well, they're going to machines now.. poorly paid flunkies might actually sue if they get hurt.

    i'm enjoying your stories! keep it up.

  • truthsearcher
    truthsearcher
    It started out with Dan Smoally (not even 30 years old and partaking) telling about what Max Larson (head of the whole factory) told him "there was NO WAY he was one of the ANOINTED!" Max at the time was a member of the great crowd...........I mean how could God pick him, some kid? When Max was there at Gods house for over 40 years?......Sometimes I wonder how God picks those anointed guys anyway, God can be strange sometimes.

    I have asked this same question to the JWs that I study with, and no one seems to know. It has to do with some sort of inner feeling, maybe like heartburn?

  • TopHat
    TopHat

    What a HELL HOLE!!

  • Dismembered
    Dismembered

    Unreal New Boy!

    The "mecca" of true worship.

    Dismembered

  • Anitar
    Anitar

    Hey New Boy, when you mentioned Fred Franz's comments, it made me wonder, did you see Raymond Franz at Bethel at all? If you did, did you know him or ever speak to him? Just out of curiousity, what did you think when he published Crisis of Conscience?

    Anitar

  • ninja
    ninja

    where are they forms for bethel?...i wanna sign up now it sounds fab...he he...thanks for the stories newboy ..can't wait for the next installment....they are amazing.......did anybody know tom and sunny chicky or bill bellows?...that is who I met when I visited the bethel years ago...and there was also an old sister who was a grand prix driver in her electric wheelchair....she was stopping for no one...carmageddon or what???

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    I think Fred Hilmo was a circuit servant in the Cleveland Ohio area in the mid to late 60's I think we had him at my hall for a couple of years. It must have been before he went to bethel. If I remember he had a wife.

  • Gayle
    Gayle

    Yes, I remember that day, I feel sick to my stomach even now remembering it,,one of the those immobilizing days,,I felt for all there at that meeting,,my brother finished his "4" a couple months before that & left Bethel but he would have been there with you at that (beating) meeting. It took a tremendous lot of courage for all of you there. I was in the same congregation as the Barnes in Staten Island and travelled with them then. Oh how I wished to leave Bethel then,,but it was engrained in my (mind-controlled) brain to complete the "4 years" as I had originally signed up to do. I had no illusion that Knorr ruled and would not like that needed meeting at all. I was there '69-'74.

  • moshe
    moshe

    I signed to go to Bethel around 1976-77 when they needed a lot of brothers for construction projects. We had the OK from the elders and filled out our application. I heard an inner voice tell me, "don't do it". I talked my wife out of it- let's wait a year, I told her . And sure enough in a year she was pregnant- problem solved.

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