by ButtLight 24 Replies latest jw friends
Believe me, Im not holding my breath, they didnt call on me the first time around either!
Butty-babes if I was an elder I'd be round every weekend seeing if you had erm changed your heart, hairstyle, pants - any excuse would do!
Ha Ha, your such a funny girl, so, when will you become an elder? Soon?
What makes me sick, is that in my JC meeting, they told me I could come talk to them about anything, when ever I wanted.
Why the hell would the elder that df'd me, see me in a restraunt, and asked to be moved all the way to the other side???? Perfect time for him to walk up to me and say "It would really be nice to see you at the meeting sometime!"
Buttlight, I could contact your local Kingdumb hall and ask them to visit you. Give me the phone number to the local hall.
Once a year the body of elders reviews a list of those in
the congregation territory who are disfellowshipped or disassociated. They will call on each one they select
These wiggle words have already been noted, above.
You have to understand that the dubs are trained to be 'legalistic' and to parse every sentence to get at the meaning. This is the model set for them by the speakers and literature. Imagine a body of elders, already way too busy with family, job, congo stuff, being told to make up a list of people who have left the organization and make time to visit them every year! You can bet more than one elder will speak up and say, "I note that it says "'each one they select,' so clearly we can make a judgment call on some of them." The only thing dubs do better than legalism is judgmentalism, so what happens next is the list of 10 becomes 1 or 2. The poor saps who get tagged to make these visits will make a phone call, leave a message on the machine to "give us a call if you want a visit." and report back at the next elders' meeting that they made the effort but there was no interest.
And that's exactly how it happens, which explains why almost none of you ever got a call.
Well i hope i never get a shepherding call cos i'd tell them to bog off. I am surprised though that they haven't bothered to try to see my husband(inactive) to see how hes holding up, having such an evil wife lol!Especially as three of the elders are related to him(i think they prefer golf its all they seem to do)
I didn't have a shepherding visit for the last 3 years I was a jw, but when I started missing meetings, the elders were ringing almost every day, and even tried a surprise visit one night. Even after I'd handed in my da letter, they rand a few times to see if I was sure I knew what I was doing,
Shepherding visits seem to be one of the forgotten duties on the elder bodys' these days.
Since you don't have any shepherding calls, I prepared this shepherd pie for you my dear.
ButtLight wrote: Why the hell would the elder that df'd me, see me in a restraunt, and asked to be moved all the way to the other side???? Perfect time for him to walk up to me and say "It would really be nice to see you at the meeting sometime!"
How cold.
Loving Shephards indeed. What asses.
-Aude.
Greetings
When I was active, I pioneered a lot in a congregation that had desperate need for any type of shepherding calls. Be it active members of the congregation, fading members or disfellowshipped ones. I found unless time was able to be counted you never saw hide nor hair from any elder. Sheparding calls were unheard of unless the elder could count it, ie unbaptized people.
I thought it was just the congregation, well it was disbanded. We moved halls and it was the same story. I received one call in all my time, the elder and the CO came visiting, I had just separated from my husband who was on a restraining order due to assault (on me, in front of the police). I was facing how to feed my three children as my ex was holding the finances until such time as I went back to him, not to mention the stress of his hundreds of phone calls each day despite a restraining order against him, and looking for work knowing my only references were my ex (family business). When the elder and the CO showed up I was almost (note almost) grateful, someone actually cares, so I thought. Was I wrong. It appears some one snitched on me and my moment of weakness (perhaps the fleeing from my ex did it, I don’t actually recall) but I picked up cigarettes and smoked. Yup the whole visit was about the fact that I smoked (though at that exact moment I wasn’t any more). No mention on how I was doing, can we help, can we offer you anything, how are the children doing nothing, not a word. Smoking! They prayed, and left, never heard a word from them again, and I went out and bought a new pack of cigarettes and never went back to the hall again.
I have only heard through my father of one attempt in a decade to contact me, it seems they went to him to ask for my home information. My father, bless his heart asked me, and I said I would rather not. Despite the fact they know where I work, and I guess where I live by now, I have yet to hear from any of them. After my one and only experience, never would be to soon.
Call me bitter, yes I am. Just before I left there was this whole thing in the watchtower about the congregation and the love and fine shepards ect. If love is based on time you can count or don’t expect anything, then in all sincerity, I don’t need that kind of love at all. It makes my stomach turn.
Jahna
I dont remember that much, but arent they suppose to stop by at least once a year to df'd ones? Or did that change?
Its coming up to two years now since I was df'd, and not one elder has stopped by...........not that I want them to!
Has anyone else that is df'd ever gotten one?
Never mind is you were DF'd.
I stopped attending meetings August 1999, but didn't get a visit from Elders till September 2001. There was nothing in between those dates. No visit, no phone call, not even a Memorial invite pushed through the door.
And when they did call it was part of a campaign to get inactive ones back because of falling numbers. So Ithought if I'm just there to make up the numbers forget it. So I disassociated.
So much for their "loving care" it lost them a member.
