Jesus' Tomb... Has it been found?

by Elsewhere 58 Replies latest jw friends

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    It's a long shot to prove such a thing... I'm curious how this will pan out.

    http://time-blog.com/middle_east/2007/02/jesus_tales_from_the_crypt.html

    February 23, 2007 6:55
    Jesus: Tales from the Crypt

    Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the ship he's sinking is Christianity.

    In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene.

    No, it's not a re-make of "The Da Vinci Codes'. It's supposed to be true.

    Let's go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers were gouging out the foundations for a new building in the industrial park in the Talpiyot, a Jerusalem suburb. of Jerusalem. The earth gave way, revealing a 2,000 year old cave with 10 stone caskets. Archologists were summoned, and the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua.
    Israel's prominent archeologist Professor Amos Kloner didn't associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus. His father, after all, was a humble carpenter who couldn't afford a luxury crypt for his family. And all were common Jewish names.

    There was also this little inconvenience that a few miles away, in the old city of Jerusalem, Christians for centuries had been worshipping the empty tomb of Christ at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Christ's resurrection, after all, is the main foundation of the faith, proof that a boy born to a carpenter's wife in a manger is the Son of God.

    But film-makers Cameron and Jacobovici claim to have amassed evidence through DNA tests, archeological evidence and Biblical studies, that the 10 coffins belong to Jesus and his family.

    Ever the showman, (Why does this remind me of the impresario in another movie,"King Kong", whose hubris blinds him to the dangers of an angry and very large ape?) Cameron is holding a New York press conference on Monday at which he will reveal three coffins, supposedly those of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene. News about the film, which will be shown soon on Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada's Vision, and Israel's Channel 8, has been a hot blog topic in the Middle East (check out a personal favorite: Israelity Bites) Here in the Holy Land, Biblical Archeology is a dangerous profession. This 90-minute documentary is bound to outrage Christians and stir up a titanic debate between believers and skeptics. Stay tuned.
    --Tim McGirk/Jerusalem

  • Stealth453
    Stealth453

    This reminds me of a quote I once read, from a former pope whose name escapes me, at present.

    He wrote "Do you have any idea how much money we have made on this Jesus story of ours"?

    Hmmmmm, could it be that the whole 'son of doG thing, is just an elaborate hoax/story/fairy-tale? Say it isn't so....

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    It depends how people will use the Jesus story, there will always be perverted people making money out of the christian religion instead of using it according to its natural purpose which is to elevate the spiritual quality of mankind. Christianity is precisely anti instinct.

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia
    Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the ship he's sinking is Christianity.

    In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene.

    Oh god. Cameron & Jacobivici are the folks behind the travesty called The Exodus Decoded....believe me, I never saw such a stinking pile of pseudo-scholarship on biblical matters on TV in my life. Almost every minute I was crying out, "I can't believe he said that!" after hearing one logical fallacy/misinterpretation of evidence/jumping to conclusions after another. You could just as well set out to prove that Jesus built the Great Wall of China with slaves from India via the same kind of nonsense peddled in that program.

    I will probably tune in to see if it is just as bad a trainwreck as the last program, and probably get upset over the dearth of real scholarship on TV.

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia
    But film-makers Cameron and Jacobovici claim to have amassed evidence through DNA tests, archeological evidence and Biblical studies, that the 10 coffins belong to Jesus and his family.

    How'd they get a sample of Jesus' DNA?

  • riverofdeceit
    riverofdeceit
    How'd they get a sample of Jesus' DNA?

    I was wondering the same thing. What is that blanket that supposedly jesus was wrapped in? the shroud of ... something? I was reading a fictional book where someone got a sample of blood off of that and cloned (or attempted to clone jesus dna yada yada.) Maybe Cameron read that book and got some ideas?

    edited to add: It is the "Shroud of Turin".http://www.shroudofjesus.com/

  • Midget-Sasquatch
    Midget-Sasquatch

    I wonder if the "evidence" they'll present will make me tune out right away or at least make for some entertainment. I mean it has got to be better than the one where the Knight's Templars actually buried Jesus somewhere in France.

    I wonder if Cameron and Jacobovici were heavily influenced by James Tabor's ideas, and if he in turn, met with them on that DNA data. I remember Tabor speculating about the James Ossuary possibly first being with those others at Talpiyot. He didn't have the DNA evidence to confirm kinship though at the time.

    Tabor can present his ideas in an interesting manner that comes off sounding plausible at least, but in the end I think we're still only left with speculation at best. If that Cameron and Jacobovici documentary doesn't mention Tabor, I wonder what angle they'll pursue.

  • Carmel
    Carmel

    How could jesus father a child? Wasn't he monploid? carmel

  • Carmel
    Carmel

    make that haploid!!

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge
    It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua.
    Israel's prominent archeologist Professor Amos Kloner didn't associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus. His father, after all, was a humble carpenter who couldn't afford a luxury crypt for his family. And all were common Jewish names.

    Oh pleeeeze..... a "professor" knows the part of the life of Christ in that Jesus was a humble carpenter but didn't associate three of the names, Joseph, Mary, and Jesus as being the key players in the Nativity..... "H-e-l-l-o" ..... this doesn't pass the "smell" test.

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